General Marvel Legends

[Gambitfan]

For me, Batman TAS is pretty much the final word on that character, and Mask of the Phantasm is as good as (if not better than) any live action Batman movie. I just watched this movie recently.


Yeah, sticking to the former is the safe bet and one I don't mind companies sticking to as long as possible. Once your superhero starts tangling with the later, people's real-world politics start to enter in and if the hero makes the choice that's opposite someone's political perception then you have an online kerfuffle which, worst case, billion dollar Disney and WB might start to feel in their pocketbook. Nothing risky about punching an intergalactic despot.

Mask of the Phantasm is my favourite Batman movie. The DCAU made a tragic origin even more tragic and the scene where he first puts the mask on is epic, the music and Alfred's reaction really sell that Bruce is gone and only Batman exists.

 

[The Scream Man]

Same day today in Australia, the rest of the Magic packs dropped (Anti-Venom and Man-Wolf) as well as the Executioner wave and the 2nd Mini Comic wave. And a few Joes.
I do NOT have the $$ for all that.
I sometimes wish that Legends were better spread out and came out a LITTLE less often.
#FirstWorldProblems

 

[Enforcer]

Same day today in Australia, the rest of the Magic packs dropped (Anti-Venom and Man-Wolf) as well as the Executioner wave and the 2nd Mini Comic wave. And a few Joes.
I do NOT have the $$ for all that.
I sometimes wish that Legends were better spread out and came out a LITTLE less often.
#FirstWorldProblems

Every year there's always one or two times where like a wave and some deluxe releases all hit at the same time and regardless of my financial situation it's always devastating lol I remember when all of the X-Men Anniversary stuff hit at the end of one Summer just not being prepared for an extra 600 bucks of random stuff all at once.

This Fall has been a big one as well. Lotta multi packs expected between now and mid December... plus the 97 Sentinels

 

[TheGillMan]

I raaaaged the first time I read that line. Character assassination. I reread the Ultimates run a few years back and I felt GREASY after reading it. Just all the worst takes you could possibly get from every single character. I swear the only moderately good thing that came out of it was an entertaining take on stunt casting Nick Fury. Well okay Hitch drew his ass off.

I remember reading the Authority, and really enjoying it as such a different take on superheroes. The Ultimates comes out, and at first I'm excited because...hey...same guy who wrote The Authority! I quickly realized that The Ultimates was nothing more than the Authority cosplaying as Avengers. I've hated about 90% of his writing since. He's a one-trick pony, in my opinion.

Yeah, there's a lot of reasons why Millar's take was lazy and mean and dumb, and it was clear he wanted to write the worst of Cap's generation embodied in him instead of how progressive Steve actually was. (Which made sense given who created him.)

Millar never understood any of the characters he was writing outside of his own original creations. His take on Cap is Cap in name only. This extends beyond the Ultimate universe too, as his stuff set in the "616" is equally divorced from the history of the characters and their actual personalities. I remember so many people praising Civil War, and me thinking it was hot garbage.

It's unfortunate, but audiences often think of "realism" as the highest bar for quality. You see that in all kind of art. Like, doesn't matter what I'm drawing, if I make it more rendered and detailed, more classically "realistic" people *will* be more impressed by it, even if the composition or subject is less interesting. There's a perception that reality is the only thing we should be shooting for in fiction and that often bums me out.

This is something that's been a growing hitch for me with superhero films. After seeing the Spiderverse stuff, I'm just not as interested in live action superheroes. Animation has the feel and intensity and color I want more. I don't want everything to look just like that, of course, but animation has so many modes, and I think almost all of them are a closer fit to the comics for purposes of adaptation. But I think a lot of folks see live-action film as the ultimate legitimacy. The only way for the story to be really 'serious' enough.

I'd definitely like to see more superhero stories done as animated movies. There are some characters who would really shine in animated form in a way that a "live-action" film never could.

I mean the Timmverse is the gold standard … and I’m a Marvel guy mostly

Absolutely. The single best adaptation of comics into ANY medium, period.