U.S. Politics

Here's my position: Cops can be impersonated with some effort. ICE agents can be impersonated with virtually no effort at all. But both facts have the same conclusion: you cannot necessarily be sure of who is knocking at the door.
If I see a uniformed cop with a badge at my door, I'm going to tell them through the door to wait while I confirm their identity, and I'm going to call the cops myself and ask if they have someone outside my door. Period. If during that time a cop decides to force entry into my home, I have no problem at all using lethal force to stop that from happening.
This is simply doubly true if it's someone claiming to be ICE. Until I get confirmation from authorities I have contacted that you are who you say you are, you are simply a violent trespasser.

That being said, I don't want to bury the lead and act like you necessarily have to comply with authorities once you know who they are. In my opinion, ICE agents are authoritarian stormtrooper Nazis and it is completely morally correct to shoot them dead where you find them. Not that I am suggesting anyone SHOULD do that, of course.
 
I was talking about it with my therapist and he said "it's scary, but we'll get through it. Germany had their thing for 12 years but they got through it too " This didn't exactly allay my fears.

9 million dead Germans later. 14% or so of their population. So only 47 million or so US citizens. Of course this doesn't include the 10s-100s of million dead world wide; not just Germans. Oh and nuclear weapons were still a few years away.
 
The best of us have done basically fuck all to stop it thus far. I see no reason to assume that will change.
I would disagree.

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We're out there making our voices heard. If you haven't done so already, I would urge you to join us.

Believe me, it DOES make a difference when enough of us rise up with one voice.
 
Agreed, SD. Making a difference- in any sense- really doesn't take much. Saving someone's life can be as simple as smiling at someone when they're having a bad day. Effort will always lead to results; even if you aren't the one to bring about the change yourself, your actions have a ripple. It's only indifference that spells defeat. When you have something to fight for, there's really no other choice but to fight.

Posting Nemik's Manifesto from Andor because, well, it's never been more apt and important than right now. I'm seriously gonna have to try and print out a poster of it, because it always gets me fired up. "Remember this: try".

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My predictions for the near future:

Trump will continue manipulating the markets. His intent is obviously to transfer as much wealth to the billionaire class as possible. By the middle of this summer, the United States and the world will be in a recession so massive it will make 2008 seem like a walk in the park. Our former allies will continue to hate us. And when he's squeezed as much money as he can out of the economy, Trump will resign. JD Hillbilly will take over and the first thing mascara boy will do is issue Trump a blanket pardon for any and all crimes committed. That won't stop the lawsuits of course, but his lawyers can delay those. And then Trump will go live in Russia (If he hasn't pissed them off, too).

The Democrats will take back the House and Senate in the 2026 mid-terms by a landslide. The House and Senate Judiciary Committees will launch so many investigations it won't even be funny. The Attorney General and The Director of the FBI will both resign and join their cult leader in Russia.

In 2028 the Democrats will take back the White House. The problem is, it will take years, if not decades, for the damage to be undone,

Most of the MAGA base will be so disillusioned and so bitter about being played like a cheap violin they'll never vote Republican again. Until they get another cult leader who'll say "Vote for me!! Things will be different this time!"

And around and around we go ...
 
What has trump accomplished in his first 100 days?

Indiscriminately fired (then re-hired) thousands of critical workers (like the nuclear workers, people who fight fires and the people who land planes safely)

Started a trade war with the ENTIRE world (including penguins)

Cost Americans TRILLIONS in lost wealth because of his erratic "leadership"

Ignored court orders (including the Supreme Court)

Threatened to deport American citizens

Spent $40 million on vacations for himself

Sided with Putin over the United States and democracy (even voted with Russia at the UN for the first time in history)

Threatened judges and the press

Threatened our longtime allies

Threatened to take over a sovereign country by force

Ruined the stability of the U.S. in the world's eyes

Began a recession

Gutted veteran services

And MANY, MANY more damaging things to the U.S.
 
My predictions for the near future:

Trump will continue manipulating the markets. His intent is obviously to transfer as much wealth to the billionaire class as possible. By the middle of this summer, the United States and the world will be in a recession so massive it will make 2008 seem like a walk in the park. Our former allies will continue to hate us. And when he's squeezed as much money as he can out of the economy, Trump will resign. JD Hillbilly will take over and the first thing mascara boy will do is issue Trump a blanket pardon for any and all crimes committed. That won't stop the lawsuits of course, but his lawyers can delay those. And then Trump will go live in Russia (If he hasn't pissed them off, too).

The Democrats will take back the House and Senate in the 2026 mid-terms by a landslide. The House and Senate Judiciary Committees will launch so many investigations it won't even be funny. The Attorney General and The Director of the FBI will both resign and join their cult leader in Russia.

In 2028 the Democrats will take back the White House. The problem is, it will take years, if not decades, for the damage to be undone,

Most of the MAGA base will be so disillusioned and so bitter about being played like a cheap violin they'll never vote Republican again. Until they get another cult leader who'll say "Vote for me!! Things will be different this time!"

And around and around we go ...

I wish I believed any of this was going to happen. Trump is setting himself up to be a king. He will die in office, even if that's 10 years from now. The whole -point- of this term is to make sure we don't have free and fair elections ever again. Republicans have been aggressively attacking voting rights since the Bush administration, and certainly since the Obama administration. They're changing all the rules to make sure they win as often as possible. They've both successfully stolen elections and tried to steal others. They're currently trying to throw away votes in North Carolina to steal a state supreme court seat. They're arresting judges that they deem to have 'defied' them. Trump and many of his mouthpieces have repeatedly floated the idea of Trump not leaving office, literally while he is following the authoritarian playbook about how to never have to leave office.
To me it's absolutely insane to think there's any intent here to try to retire from being the most powerful man in the world - literally the only thing Trump wants at this point. I genuinely believe that man would murder his entire family to remain in power until he dies. There's zero chance he's giving it up without a fight. The whole point of becoming an authoritarian is that he doesn't have to care how bad the economy is, or what his approval ratings are. He already doesn't care. It's super obvious.

Dems aren't likely to take back anything unless they can put together a legitimate message and a plan to change things. This softball 'let's play to the center' thing that has been losing them elections and dumped their approval rating in the toilet is largely the playbook they're STILL using today. At this point, establishment Democrats are 100% complicit in the failure of American democracy and they're clearly not serious about dealing with that (with a few exceptions that won't matter unless they are behind the wheel, which they are not).
And no one is going to resign as long as Trump is in power unless Trump himself forces the issue to make himself look good for whatever reason. Trump and his cronies have a stranglehold on every federal organization. They're not giving that up unless Dems control the white house - which they don't and might never unless something is done about the lawless authoritarianism that's been allowed to fester in the Republican party.

And I also don't believe disillusioned conservatives will stop voting Republican. That flies in the face of the entire history of the party. Republicans have been massively fucking over their base for as long as I have been alive and their base has only grown - because Democrats are fucking scumbags that just let it happen, and conservative voters are dumb as absolute fuck and willing to accept the line that actually everything wrong is the fault of liberals and 'the radical left' - no matter who is in power. It works. Go look into what conservative voters are mostly saying even right now. They still blame Obama, Biden, or the 'Radical Left Democrats' for everything bad right now.


I also really wish I believed protesting did anything. Certainly, it does in a normal democracy where the politicians care about elections and stuff. That's not what this entire administration is setting up for. They do not care what you or I think. At all. In fact, I'd argue that Trump is -itching- for one protest to get a little too big and a little too unruly so he can finally test whether or not anyone will stop him from using the military against US citizens openly.
I fucking hate coming off so negative and defeatist. I would love to believe this stuff works. And I encourage everyone to keep at it because it's literally all you really can do at this point. But I don't actually believe it will matter. Myles Cosgrove is STILL a cop after murdering Breonna Taylor, ya' know? The government doesn't care what you think because you are powerless to stop them from doing what they want to do.

A 2-year-old American citizen was deported without due process a couple of days ago. Hundreds of innocent migrants, at various stages of becoming citizens/refugees are either currently jailed for no reason in the United States, or already deported to a torture-prison in a foreign country and Trump is openly defying every court, including the Supreme Court, about these things. Waving signs, in my mind, isn't going to matter to a guy that has already decided he's King of the USA. I'd love to be wrong. I just don't believe I am.
 
I'm going the opposite direction. Oligarchy or not, a 39% approval rating 100 days in is damning. I found this thread really heartening:


There are obvious questions around Republicans stealing more elections and how hard Democrats are willing to tamp down once they're back in power (if Trump and his cronies aren't in prison in 2029, we can forget it), but I think we're going to get another shot at this. It's important that Democrats pick another FDR. Easier said than done, I know. On top of rebuilding international trust and our bureaucracy, the candidate is going to have to carry out a second Reconstruction. My first choices are AOC and JB Pritzker. If you aren't willing to send Donald Trump and the Supreme Court justices who allowed this to prison on day one, I don't want to hear from you.

I've become more vocal about sending Trump and the rest to prison because normies need to get acclimated to the idea. Our elites are not beyond reproach. If you commit human rights violations or ignore the Constitution, you will be prosecuted. The alternative is that we lose our democracy.

Trump is old, frail, and unpopular. The recession he caused hasn't even started yet. The supply chain is going to be decimated. His approval ratings are underwater for everything from immigration to the economy. It's going to become fashionable to hate Donald Trump. (I wish we had gotten there in 2015, but better late than never.) There's a future where he becomes so toxic that Republicans must impeach him. I think there's only a remote chance of that, maybe 5%, but it's possible.

Keep the faith. We can get our country back.
 
I wish I believed any of this was going to happen. Trump is setting himself up to be a king. He will die in office, even if that's 10 years from now.
Damien, Trump is 78 years old. He's only two years younger than Biden. In ten years he'll be pushing 90. He's too damn old to do the job now, never mind 10 years from now. Not only is he not getting a third term, I would not be surprised if he doesn't finish this one.

The whole -point- of this term is to make sure we don't have free and fair elections ever again.

And you do realize in order for that to happen, the Constitution has to get thrown out the window. And without the Constitution, we don't have a country anymore. It's as simple as that.

No, there are still too many good people in this nation. They won't allow it.

I've lived through political upheavals before. I remember where I was and what I was doing when I heard on the radio (Remember radios?) that President Nixon resigned.

We got through it. We're going to get through this, too. As the wise man posted up above: "Keep the faith. We can get our country back."
 
There are obvious questions around Republicans stealing more elections and how hard Democrats are willing to tamp down once they're back in power (if Trump and his cronies aren't in prison in 2029, we can forget it), but I think we're going to get another shot at this. It's important that Democrats pick another FDR. Easier said than done, I know. On top of rebuilding international trust and our bureaucracy, the candidate is going to have to carry out a second Reconstruction. My first choices are AOC and JB Pritzker. If you aren't willing to send Donald Trump and the Supreme Court justices who allowed this to prison on day one, I don't want to hear from you.

I've become more vocal about sending Trump and the rest to prison because normies need to get acclimated to the idea. Our elites are not beyond reproach. If you commit human rights violations or ignore the Constitution, you will be prosecuted. The alternative is that we lose our democracy.

Trump is old, frail, and unpopular. The recession he caused hasn't even started yet. The supply chain is going to be decimated. His approval ratings are underwater for everything from immigration to the economy. It's going to become fashionable to hate Donald Trump. (I wish we had gotten there in 2015, but better late than never.) There's a future where he becomes so toxic that Republicans must impeach him. I think there's only a remote chance of that, maybe 5%, but it's possible.

Keep the faith. We can get our country back.
Democrats would have to work -very- hard to, and I hate saying it like this, get someone to the level of celebrity necessary to get voted in. And really, Pritzker? The venture capitalist billionaire? Definitely need more of those in office.

AOC has the star power, as it were. But she's been cock-blocked by the establishment Democrats are every single step in her career so far. Democrats are the entire problem here. It's a two-party system so you can't win if you don't run as a Democrat, and the people in charge of the party just aren't interested in fielding anyone that can actually fucking win. They've proven that time and again now. Everyone fucking hated Hillary. But we got her anyway, didn't we? Look how that went.
Establishment Democrats want THEIR people - the ultra-centrist, borderline Republican-lite candidates. As long as people like Martin, Pelosi, and Schumer are calling the shots - Democrats are doomed to keep losing.

Republicans, in turn, had a chance to bury Trump after he lost. They saw what he was. They could have put all of their resources into making him look like a complete fool so that he wouldn't even dare get on a podium again. Instead, they cowered and sucked his dick every chance they got and helped create what we have now. I don't believe they'll turn on him. Especially not when he has them all afraid of what his base will do to them.

Damien, Trump is 78 years old. He's only two years younger than Biden. In ten years he'll be pushing 90. He's too damn old to do the job now, never mind 10 years from now. Not only is he not getting a third term, I would not be surprised if he doesn't finish this one.



And you do realize in order for that to happen, the Constitution has to get thrown out the window. And without the Constitution, we don't have a country anymore. It's as simple as that.

No, there are still too many good people in this nation. They won't allow it.

I've lived through political upheavals before. I remember where I was and what I was doing when I heard on the radio (Remember radios?) that President Nixon resigned.

We got through it. We're going to get through this, too. As the wise man posted up above: "Keep the faith. We can get our country back."

Trump is 78 years old. So yeah, he'll be pushing 90 in ten years. So what? How old is "King" George right now? How old was 'Queen' Lizzy when all of my dreams came true and she finally died - may she live eternally buried under the ground screaming for a death that will not come? Trump's age is not a limiting factor to him declaring himself Dictator-for-life if the people around him let him do it. That's what I'm saying here. Not that he's CAPABLE of doing the job (he wasn't capable of this job at 40, let alone 80). Whether he's too old to do the job is irrelevant. He's not doing the job. He's acting like a king. He's not going to give that up willingly. Ever.

As for the Constitution, I mean... yeah, it would have to be thrown out the window. And that's pretending it hasn't been already. Trump has spent the last 100-ish days doing things that directly violate the Constitution. He has deprived Americans and would-be Americans of their due process rights. I wouldn't even have time here to recount all the Constitutional violations he's committed. Seems like there's a new one every other day.
Every major lefty news outlet seems to already agree we are in a Constitutional crisis like never seen before in the country. I'm well aware that what I'm saying he wants to do is a violation of the Constitution. But it feels a whole lot like screaming at my brother for sitting in the front seat because 'I called shotgun first.' The Constitution is a piece of paper - not the Sword of Damocles ready to strike down anyone that violates it. It's worthless if the people sworn to defend it don't. And so far they haven't and don't seem all that interested.

I do get riled up when I see this attitude of 'we've seen stuff like this before.' We really haven't. The fact that Nixon was a criminal piece of shit does not make this situation even remotely similar. Nixon resigned because he couldn't just assume everyone would let him do whatever he wanted. Nixon wasn't powerful enough and didn't have enough absolute loyalty. Trump is -already- doing what he wants without consequences and has been doing so since his first term (and before). He attempted a fucking coup and we let him get away with it. We're so far beyond Nixon that Watergate looks absolutely adorably quaint by comparison. And Trump isn't resigning. He's shoring up power and taking control of every level of government, and defying even his own judges and daring anyone to do something about it. Which no one is actually doing.

Forgive me, but I genuinely feel like people making those types of comparisons aren't taking the threat Trump poses seriously enough. Even if we do get through it, it will not be because it was just like Nixon, or just like Bush Jr. And let's keep that in mind because if we DO get through this, the Republican party needs to be utterly destroyed. Because they keep trying to put up these people and if not Trump, then someday some Republican will succeed at destroying democracy in the United States. I mean that sincerely.

I'm actually convinced that the United States doesn't work. Republicans spent decades and decades destroying the minds of their base to the point where they are basically immune to facts and reason, and are absolutely primed to be ruled by Christo-fascist racists. They're begging for it. They want a dictator. Some even say it out loud. Unless the US is willing to restructure its voting systems to stop giving these people massively disproportionate amounts of power in how the government functions, what Trump is trying to do is inevitable. Whether he ends up being the one to do it or not.

Because it's not just about Trump. It's about the filth and corruption that the Republican party represents. It's about letting Confederates into all the halls of power after the Civil War. It's about letting so many Nazis re-settle outside of Germany after WWII. It's about watching KKK members spew hate and then put their badges on to go to work. It's about how The Left (and 'Middle') have never in US history really acted in a way that tells me they truly understand the Paradox of Tolerance, and what needs to be done.


Edit: To be very clear; I hope I'm wrong and everything turns out well and the US manages to fix itself and right all these wrongs as much as they can be righted. I'm just not optimistic.
 
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