Tracking toy tariffs

We are ready for our Bastille moment.
Honestly, this is something my mind keeps returning to for the last few weeks. I just can't imagine what it looks like in present day America with current law enforcement and military. I really, really, reeeeeeeeally hope more and more people, particularly in positions of power and military etc, come to see things for what they are and yeah.... violence isn't as necessary. I realize I'm being quite a pollyanna though.
 
The comparison to A Tale of Two Cities feels very appropriate. However, I think when most Americans picture the French Revolution, they picture storming the Bastille, decapitating Louis and Marie, and Liberty with her breasts out. I think we tend to gloss over the Reign of Terror in which the revolution ate itself for being insufficiently revolutionary. It ends in a military dictatorship, as revolutions frequently do.
 
I think we tend to gloss over the Reign of Terror in which the revolution ate itself for being insufficiently revolutionary. It ends in a military dictatorship, as revolutions frequently do.
And this is The Problem Behind The Problem.

Power ALWAYS corrupts. As long as we submit to “leaders”, it will inevitably go this way. We WILL have a Robespierre. And people will cheer for him.
 
My mom loves this refrain. She's "in the middle" despite having voted for every candidate with an "R" next to their name since she turned 18.
It's up there with "I'm not a racist/sexist, but-"

The hand has been played and I already know what you're going to get defensive about.
 
There’s a line between having rational complaints about a ridiculous tariff situation (and rapid 145% tariffs are ridiculous) and several comments about how people should be killed or die in this thread alone. Let alone the other vitriol.

This shit is all over toy social media. The tariffs are a real issue and they’re gonna really hurt or hobby and hurt people’s livelihood, but saying that people need to die or be killed?

It’s not like it’s even just from the tariffs. The amount of Luigi memes and other calls for death I’ve seen since before “liberation” day was already disturbing to me and since the tariffs it’s just gotten worse.


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I would have more respect for the anti-violence pearl-clutching (currently that amount is at zero) if there were any solutions being offered by the same people. There never are. It's always "you should just allow the government to kidnap people, destroy our lives, and literally kill us with impunity." Because what few and insufficient systems we have to defend us from the myriad ways our rights and lives are being eroded aren't working.
We have to be clear about that, right? We have to be honest about it. It's not just about tariffs. It's about the whole system that's allowing the tariffs to even happen and who is benefiting from the chaos. It's the same story that's been happening my entire life. Rich people are deciding to kill poor people for personal gain. And we let them do it. Every time. At what point is violence an acceptable response to violence? At what point is it 'reasonable' to start calling for certain people to be removed, as it were, in defense of all of the people they are hurting and intend to hurt in the future?


I've spoken to quite a few anti-violence types and I've yet to hear a good answer for, without violence or the threat of violence, what we are supposed to do in a situation where all of the safeguards meant to protect us from the worst depredations of the powerful utterly fail. It's wild to me that anyone can look at a system that is murdering people, hundreds - thousands - of people on a daily basis and say 'it's disgusting to me that you would suggest a violent response to this system!' Wild.

Let me be clear; I am not as opposed to violence as other people in this thread have claimed themselves to be. I do think violence is an evil. I do think it would be a truly exquisite world if we did not have violence. But we do have violence. Endless violence. And the only people that win in a world where -some- people want to be pacifistic are, you guessed it, the people with the least compunctions against violence. It is incumbent on all of us to choose for ourselves when violence is just - because a world without violence does not exist. And cannot exist, in my opinion.
 
The film tariff thing has brought out some of the overall ignorance we see time and time again - had a colleague call it a "distraction" and I'm like: tell that to my friends in the film industry who will lose their jobs over this. Everything is a distraction to someone else and a life-ruining attack to others. Tariffs on "dolls" will cost retailers, truckers, designers, etc. jobs. And he's going after the arts because they'll stand up to him. Computer parts are exempt because techbros bend the knee so fast you'd think it was part of their hot yoga class. Artists tend to have balls tech companies don't.

That Bloomberg interview is perfect in its clarity. If Americans were capable of understanding something explained in a way a fifth grader could understand the way that man does in that interview, maybe we'd save ourselves, but... cult cult cult, I guess.

I called myself a pacifist upthread, but I say that in that in an aspirational way. I'm also the asshole who has never started a bar fight but always ended up needing to end them, like a proper Boston piece of shit townie. And I completely alienated an author panel this past week when I said hope should be angry and that hope can be violent and the other panelists all leaned in on how pointless violence is. But I'm like, well, someone's gotta get their hands dirty first. That's the tough part. You need someone to get bloody, and then you need someone softer to put the shit back together again afterward. Unfortunately right now we have neither.

I think if we were a species capable of pacifism or utopian ideals we'd have gotten closer to it already. Any time we edge close to that, some gorilla motherfucker comes along and chokes out the idealists and takes over. Maybe it's time to just let the cats have their chance as the dominant species on the planet. We've sure as hell squandered it at every opportunity.
 
Part of me was thinking "okay, but as long as they reverse course soon, at least..." But no, that's utterly stupid.

I saw in a comment section on another collecting site th current narrative seems to be it's all bullshit and retailers are just using this as an excuse to inflate prices. There's not legitimate reason for the tariffs to have them charge more. Just corporate greed. Blame them.

Man I wish that's all it was.
 
Any time we edge close to that, some gorilla motherfucker comes along and chokes out the idealists and takes over.
True. Anyone who spreads too many ideas about peace has to be taken out.
Maybe it's time to just let the cats have their chance as the dominant species on the planet.
Brilliant. I mean, a lot of them already believe they are anyway, since they have two legged servants etc.
 
Entirely anecdotal, but nearly every person I've ever spoken to that identified themselves as Libertarian or Libertarian-leaning voted in ways that were polar opposite to the typical stated goals and beliefs of Libertarianism. See: Libertarians that vote for the party that wants the government to tell you what to do with your body and hates trans people, gay people, immigrants, etc.
I love the Libertarian played by Nick Offerman in season 2 of Fargo. Particularly the scene where he is finally presented with actual lawlessness and he just shits his pants are runs back into the sheriff's office.
 
The comparison to A Tale of Two Cities feels very appropriate. However, I think when most Americans picture the French Revolution, they picture storming the Bastille, decapitating Louis and Marie, and Liberty with her breasts out. I think we tend to gloss over the Reign of Terror in which the revolution ate itself for being insufficiently revolutionary. It ends in a military dictatorship, as revolutions frequently do.
But of course it doesn't end there. That dictatorship oversteps its ambition and crashes and burns.
 
True. Anyone who spreads too many ideas about peace has to be taken out.

Brilliant. I mean, a lot of them already believe they are anyway, since they have two legged servants etc.
I think about that episode of Love, Dealth, + Robots by Scalzi a lot with the cats taking over. He was on the right track about where humanity was headed. (UPSIDE: New Love Death + Robots soon! My favorite thing ever.)
 
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