Tracking toy tariffs

JakeEkiss said:
I should say, the fact that he's trying to keep his prices stable, good on him. That's fine customer focus. It's just silly to me to try to talk around the elephant in the room when it's literally one guy responsible for a massive economic disruption.
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But like we all know who did it.

His video was mostly just to talk about how it affected his company


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thewyldman said:
But like we all know who did it.

His video was mostly just to talk about how it affected his company


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"I'd like to talk about the knife in my chest, never mind who put it there."

If he didn't want to actually have the whole discussion, he could have said nothing. Nothing is much easier to say than producing a whole 10 min+ video.
 
JakeEkiss said:
"I'd like to talk about the knife in my chest, never mind who put it there."

If he didn't want to actually have the whole discussion, he could have said nothing. Nothing is much easier to say than producing a whole 10 min video.
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Not just that, but more to the point; no one is asking BOBBY to talk about politics. It's more the idea that he doesn't want anyone else talking about it under his video. A video that is, ostensibly, about politics that Bobby himself doesn't want to address. He can talk about JUST how it affects his company or him personally. That's a different matter from trying to tell everyone else not to talk about politics. That's where the real sweeping and cowardice comes in.
 
Damien said:
Not just that, but more to the point; no one is asking BOBBY to talk about politics. It's more the idea that he doesn't want anyone else talking about it under his video. A video that is, ostensibly, about politics that Bobby himself doesn't want to address. He can talk about JUST how it affects his company or him personally. That's a different matter from trying to tell everyone else not to talk about politics. That's where the real sweeping and cowardice comes in.
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There’s not a lack of places to talk politics on the internet


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thewyldman said:
There’s not a lack of places to talk politics on the internet


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Again, saying nothing avoids political talk much more effectively than trying to talk at length about a political topic's effects without mentioning anything else. Lots of people say nothing every day.

What you're saying makes sense only if he hadn't made the video. He did. He walked right into a rake and wants to shame the rake for him stepping on it. And hey, I'm honoring his wishes. I didn't get into the comments there. I came here where the thread is political to say I think that's silly, but also point out that he's another business that, though he's putting on a cool face, you can tell he's concerned as much as anyone.

The tariff thing is going to take down companies indiscriminately if it continues.
 
thewyldman said:
There’s not a lack of places to talk politics on the internet


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Which means what? I mean, I feel like maybe you're being intentionally obtuse here. Bobby brought up a political topic and said 'don't talk about politics in my comments.' It's nonsensical, is the argument we're making. Bobby wants to be involved in The Big Discussion going on in the world right now, but doesn't want you to say anything that might offend his political leanings. That's what's happening. It's sweeping. And it's cowardice.
The fact that you can talk politics 'elsewhere' isn't... even remotely relevant.
 
mrboshek said:
Bobby implied he's a centrist on tonight's podcast, lol.
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Tbf I think the toy community has a hard time separating libertarians from MAGA.

He also said people that want swastikas on action figures are disgusting


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mrboshek said:
Bobby implied he's a centrist on tonight's podcast, lol.
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I feel like 'I'm actually a centrist' is something Republicans tend to say more than actual centrists. It's just another way for them to cowardly deflect from their actions. 'Oh, I'm a centrist, but like every single politician I've ever strongly aligned with just HAPPENS to be on the right.'


thewyldman said:
Tbf I think the toy community has a hard time separating libertarians from MAGA.

He also said people that want swastikas on action figures are disgusting


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That could be an interesting discussion all on its own. I don't think 'not separating X group from Y group' is a uniquely 'toy community' problem. Most people can't separate Leftists from Liberals any better than they can separate Libertarians from Republicans (although I think most people can separate them from MAGA).

However, it could also be very strongly argued that Libertarian-voters tend to be predominantly right-wing. The famous 'I'm a hardcore Republican but I think weed should be legal so I'm Libertarian' type. What's even more interesting is that, in my opinion, most Libertarians... aren't. Entirely anecdotal, but nearly every person I've ever spoken to that identified themselves as Libertarian or Libertarian-leaning voted in ways that were polar opposite to the typical stated goals and beliefs of Libertarianism. See: Libertarians that vote for the party that wants the government to tell you what to do with your body and hates trans people, gay people, immigrants, etc.

Not to understate it - I think Libertarianism is wrong-headed. But I think it's wrong-headed in often admirable ways and I love having debates with real Libertarians because they have interesting ideas and there's interesting ways to take the conversations because it really can feel like 'similar goals, different ways to get there.' Or different outlooks on how those policies will actually play out. However, I'd argue the amount of people that claim to be Libertarian to escape the stigma of actually being extremely right-wing is very high. Again, in my experience.
 
I mean, Trump isn't a centrist. He's extremely far right. If you voted centrist you'd probably vote Harris. I think a lot of pseudo-centrists in the current political age are lying to themselves. They think they are too reasonable and fairly deduced to have bias.

I don't believe tariffs are part of a libertarian platform—correct me if I'm wrong—but I thought free trading was part of that bag of apples.
 
AgentHemlock said:
I mean, Trump isn't a centrist. He's extremely far right. If you voted centrist you'd probably vote Harris. I think a lot of pseudo-centrists in the current political age are lying to themselves. They think they are too reasonable and fairly deduced to have bias.

I don't believe tariffs are part of a libertarian platform—correct me if I'm wrong—but I thought free trading was part of that bag of apples.
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Correct. In fact, PERSONAL freedom and free trade are both such massive elements of the Libertarian platform that no actual Libertarian could vote for Trump. The comparison could fairly be made that a Libertarian voting Republican (in the 2020s) is virtually the same level of voting-against-your-beliefs as a hard right Christo-fascist voting for me.
 
thewyldman said:
I mean look at some of the vitriol in this thread and other toy discussion places. I don’t blame him.
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How do you think people should be reacting? I'm not trying to dogpile or instigate. I'm genuinely asking.

Americans are facing a massive tax increase brought on by the president. The president has unclear goals around this tax increase, to say the least. What should we do about it?

Folks in this country, particularly centrists and swing voters, don't like it when politics get vitriolic. I get it. I'm a conflict-averse person. I was brought up in a house with a lot of yelling and I'll hide under a desk to avoid it to this day. At the same time, I think those folks discount the reasons for that anger.

I gave in to my anger in this thread. Several times. I don't like it, but I also think calling the president an idiot online is a pretty reasonable reaction to something that will have a massive impact on my life. The worst part is, I really am powerless here. I voted for Kamala Harris in November. She lost. I voted for a Democratic representative and Senator in 2024. They won, yet they have no power. I have no chance to influence policy in any meaningful way. I come here and bitch that my toys and food will get more expensive. The only thing I can do is complain and try to raise awareness for the next election. I think that's a reasonable reaction. The only other option is to shut up and take it.
Damien said:
I feel like 'I'm actually a centrist' is something Republicans tend to say more than actual centrists. It's just another way for them to cowardly deflect from their actions. 'Oh, I'm a centrist, but like every single politician I've ever strongly aligned with just HAPPENS to be on the right.'
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My mom loves this refrain. She's "in the middle" despite having voted for every candidate with an "R" next to their name since she turned 18.
 
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