Skurge the Executioner BAF Wave

I’m excited for nearly everything shown today.

Obviously Amora and Skurge were my highlights, but basically that whole wave is fantastic. I can happily skip Logan because he doesn’t have a BaF piece, and I’ll give Dark Spidey to my youngest for his Spiderverse shelf. As far as Iron Man, I’m always happy to add a new armor to my Armory, so I’m good with it.

The Inhumans all look amazing. So pumped for those. Kirby awesomeness.

Spidey 2099 and Cardiac look amazing.

And finally, happy I don’t give a damn about the Apocalypse MTO. Money saved.
 
Resilient said:
Funny, the armor design in the thighs with is about the only part of this armor i like. Gives me Pentagon armor vibes.

I'd also love to get an Emma from this era, too.

Is this repaint going to be far behind?

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Oh good call! And the colors do look nice that way.


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NORM said:
Armor stronger than Adamantium? How’s that possible?
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Yeah it’s supposed to be some crazy metal from the White Hot Room that Howard Stark was trying to discover. Only mutants have access to it. Super-conductive allowing Iron Man’s repulsors to be stronger. Anti-magic properties.

Stronger than adamantium. The images I posted are of a cyborg zombie Wolverine with adamantium claws and armor. And It broke its adamantium claws against the Mysterium Armor. And then clearly Iron Man simply crushed its head (also made of adamantium?).

One wiki page says it’s only stronger than secondary adamantium, so who knows.

Super powerful. Iron Man only had it for a little while. This suit is actually the inner suit within a giant mecha-sized Sentinel Buster Iron Man.


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Overall, I love this wave! Epic lineup.

Mysterium Iron Man—love new sculpts and it’s a super powerful armor for the Armory and for the Avengers shelf. Need a new version of Captain Marvel. And Vision has a new look on this team. Black Panther’s armor on this team looked great, too.

Executioner is a must-have villain for the Masters of Evil and the Thor shelf. Do I need more than one? He also lets us complete the Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes Masters of Evil. I wonder if his body would be reused for Ares?

Enchantress! One of my favorite female villains. While I loved having the old figure of her, the legs always wilted under her weight. This new one looks a significant upgrade. The portrait is beautiful. Pinless double arms and legs should make her stable. And a new magic effect. Love this one.

Phantom Rider is a fun out there choice. I have always loved the look. Very cool to get a cowboy. Hardly any cowboy figures.

Warbow looks really cool. I love translucent figures. I have no clue who he is. But Crystar was a great figure, too.

Dark Avengers Spider-Man looks awesome. As others wrote, this isn’t Venom from the team of Dark Avengers that we have been building. This is from the second team. But still, it’s a great character design. Happy to get him.

Army Logan looks way better than I would have expected. Tempted by this one as well.


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hmmberto said:
I love Warbow for what he represents about ML - the more total weirdos that nobody saw coming, the better. Think of the most obscure Marvel character you want a figure of, that 90% of fans have never heard of and could not care less about, and despair at their chances of being made. Then, look to Warbow! And your hope is renewed. If Warbow can be made, anyone is fair game.
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That is totally 100 percent true.

Crystar was an 11 issue series that was published by Marvel in 1983. It was created with the express intent to license the characters out to a toy company and that's exactly what happened. A toy company called Remco bought the license to make toys with Marvel still owning the characters. In fact, the action figures hit toy stores before the first issue of the comic made it to comic shops.

The toys didn't sell well here in the states and the comic was cancelled after 11 issues. Some of the characters appeared briefly in the 2015 Secret Wars mini series and that was it.

I read the first couple of issues of Crystar back when it first came out and dropped it. It wasn't very good and it didn't seem to be going anywhere. I didn't think about it again until Hasbro showed their Crystar figure a couple of years ago. Well, okay. That was fine. I wasn't thrilled but I was happy for all three people who enjoyed Crystar back in the day.

Now there's Warbow. A character I don't remember at all and could tell you nothing about. Of all the thousands of characters in the Marvel Universe that Hasbro can pick to put in an Executioner BAF wave, they pick this guy. Willie Lumpkin with ear wiggling action would be a better choice. At least I know who he is.

I have read thousands, maybe tens of thousands of Marvel comics over the years. I'd say I have a pretty decent knowledge of Marvel mythology. My love of the Marvel Universe runs deep. But Warbow? Pfft. I got nothin'. Couldn't tell ya a thing about him. And yes, I know I can google it, but as they say across the pond "I can't be arsed."

Normally when I'm forced to buy an action figure I don't want to complete a BAF (Something I've come to resent over the years) I just give the figure away to Goodwill hoping some kid will enjoy it. But not Warbow. I have plans for him.

I'm taking him with me to SDCC. When I'm talking to the team and making suggestions for future waves, if they come back at me and say "Oh, no. That character's too obscure. Too niche." I'm going to pull Warbow out of my bag, shove it in their faces, and say "Oh, yeah? Too obscure? Too niche? THEN EXPLAIN THIS!!!!!"

Seriously. When I bring up Jack of Hearts or Man-Ape or the Warriors Three or the Two Gun Kid I don't want to hear the words "obscure" and "niche" from them ever again. They have lost the ability to use that as any kind of valid excuse. There cannot be that big a market for Crystar and Warbow. They're being made because someone at either Hasbro or Disney was one of the few people who read that comic and now wants figures. I would say that Warbow is the perfect textbook definition of obscure and niche.

So @hmmberto is right. Warbow represents renewed hope. Let's use it to get the rest of our want lists made.
 
TFitz said:
See, I want to think that, but next they are going to release an FA Captain America and Bucky, and I'm going to have to go hunting for him.
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From your Trickster God's lips to Hasbro's ears.

I'm hoping that WWII Logan sells well. Dwight said at SDCC that if it sells that may open the door to more Golden Age figures. Jim Hammond is coming. Bucky, Toro, Whizzer, Miss America and Spitfire would be awesome.

I'm sure it's the same with Phantom Rider. If he sells, that may open the door to Two-Gun Kid, Red Wolf, Kid Colt, Outlaw and the Ringo Kid. And maybe a damn horse.
 
Ditko said:
My opinions are never what this board's opinions are, I don't get the hate for Iron Man....and love for a weak Phantom Rider but have at it. I think anything that isn't super simplistic is an irritant for most folks here. Oh well.
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What do you mean by super-simplistic - the comic design or the figure?

I also want to comment on the fact that this wave is now confirmed as having all three heavy hitters taking up spots - Spider-Man, Wolverine and Iron Man, each getting a new or mostly new sculpt. Spider-Man in particular is a bullshit inclusion - despite being an Avenger, this figure would sell fine in Spider-Man's OWN LINE. He definitely should have been subbed out for another character, preferably female. The line needs an anchor character? Okay, not sure why Fan Channel waves have to play by retail rules, but fine - one. Not two characters who basically have their own releases. Three is a ridiculous waste of limited BAF spots.
 
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And just so no one gets the wrong idea ...

Overall I am very, very pleased with how the Legends panel went. Finishing up the Inhumans after all these years seems like a dream. Werewolf By Night is amazing and of course the hope is that leads to more classic monsters. Same with Phantom Rider and more western heroes. If WWII Logan sells well that may open the door to some more Golden Age characters, but this is Wolverine we're talking about. I'll be astonished if he doesn't sell well so I have my hopes up. And at long last we have the Executioner along with an updated Enchantress so maybe there might be more Asgardians or even more classic Masters of Evil like the Melter or the villainous Black Knight. All in all a great showing and one I'm very pleased with.

And then ... there's ... Warbow.

Why does that bother me? Why am I making it an issue? Well, there were some characters I asked Hasbro about at last summer's SDCC and they didn't seem very hopeful. I asked about more Asgardians and more Serpent Society and I was told that they would require a lot of new tooling and paint. With the Asgardians, they felt like they could get away with it with Thor and Odin but anyone else is too big a gamble. Same with the Serpent Society. They're expensive figures to produce and the fear is there would be too little return on the investment. I also asked about more Golden Age characters, specifically more Invaders like Bucky and Toro. They said they put Bucky on the list of characters to be approved a few times and it got shot down each time. They didn't say why but I assume it's because the higher ups don't think he'll sell.

Now, in fairness, it's important to note that the team didn't say no, forget it, they're definitely not happening (Like Jesse once told us about Armadillo). They just said it would be hard. You know, there's a lot going in the world right now with inflation, a shaky economy and this tariff bullshit. I'm hoping things get better but right now it's kind of bleak. I'm sure that's got a lot to do with it. Maybe at some point in the future characters like Asgardians and Serpents will be back on the agenda. Fingers crossed.

And that's why I'm a little salty about Warbow. Most of us are from the Fwoosh and we're old timers. There are characters we've been asking for and begging for for YEARS. How many freaking times have we asked for Jack of Hearts, Mantis, Swordsman, Man-Ape? But, y'know, we get Warbow. Granted, it doesn't look Warbow is an expensive figure to produce. They sure as hell didn't use a lot of paint. But still ... I'm trying to remember any kind of online effort to get this character made. I can't remember anyone asking for him once. It's been 40 years since he first appeared. I forgot all about him. I mean ... what the hell?

And let me just say this. Dwight and Dan are great guys. They really are. They're fun, knowledgeable and easy to talk to. They're very forthcoming with information when they're allowed to be and I appreciate that. I appreciate that they come out to shows and spend time with the fans. I think that's awesome. And I know that there are people higher up the chain than they are that they have to answer to. I get that. Hasbro is a big profit driven company. Profit first, fans second. I understand how the world works. I get it.

But I don't wanna hear this niche and obscure stuff anymore. Nope, nope, nope. Warbow was made as a favor to someone. Warbow isn't going to sell nearly as much as Wolverine, Spider-Man or Iron Man. Someone at Hasbro or Disney wanted that character. That's the only explanation.

So that's where my head is at right now. Overjoyed with nearly all of today's reveals except for one I'm a little miffed about.
 
PantherCult said:
How mad are you going to be SD if I start asking for Feldspar, Moltar and Zardeth?
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Well, I have no idea who they are so I'm betting they were in the Crystar comics.

Listen, there were a lot of great comics that came out in the 80's.

Crystar wasn't one of 'em.

I'm happy for the Crystar fans, though. All two of you.
 
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