Marvel Legends Gamerverse

Hbhf said:
Others mentioned the poor leadership at Hasbro and problems with Disney, but on the economic front it’s a few different things.

China was at one point known for being an extremely cheap place to manufacture products, but as they became an economic powerhouse wages for Chinese workers began to rise.

The price of oil has also risen since then, making plastic more expensive to produce and is probably a major reason why we no longer get things like ornate display bases or giant BAFs.

And of course, good ole fashioned inflation.

Many of these changes were starting to become apparent even in the final year or two of ToyBiz. You started seeing more body reuse not just across Legends, but also the sister lines like Spider-Man and X-Men Classics.
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As much as Scott Nietlich(?) deserves the ridicule he gets, he does makes valid points at times.

One video he did a while ago talked about the economics of Marvel Legends and he pointed out that the price freeze/fear that Hasbro had has also lead to the current quality levels. His take was that ML figures were basically frozen at $20, then $22, etc. for longer than they should have been because Hasbro didn't want to risk market share/sales. So to offset the frozen prices they started nickel and dime-ing the production side. Accessories, parts count, paint apps all started to be cut back to keep the target margins without raising the retail price.

He pointed out things like lack of paint on "metal" parts which lead to the swirly plastic on gold and silver metal parts of figures. Where only a couple years previous those parts would have been painted. So we kept getting less, and eventually what happened? They still raised prices and we still got the crappier production products.

In the end we are probably in the end stage of the action figure hobby. Not to say it will completely disappear, but it will become even more niche as prices continue to soar. Kids are already ageing out earlier and earlier, but pricing is speeding that phenomenon along.
 
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I'm really bummed out by the execution of these Rivals figures, they weren't the characters I wanted most from the game but there would have been a chance I'd have gotten Venom and Punisher if the articulation didn't look really meh on them. As bespoke sculpts I think they really deserved a better class of articulation scheme and instead it's heavy on cut joints that really ruin the sculpting and silhouettes, especially Venom's waist and calves.

Moon Knight might have got me for the novelty but the cape kills it for me and best I thought as I examined the pics of him was that he might make for something of a base for a Gamerverse Taskmaster custom.
 
I want a redo of Cosmic Ghost Rider if we're taking Cosmic Invasion requests. I never got the old one and it had pins. A new one sans pins would be awesome. I'd even consider getting him if he doesn't have the bike this time. I'm buying Robbie and hes not gonna have his car.

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Lucid Silverback said:
So we end up with a perfectly accurate figure that a bunch of video game players are jazzed up about, and then an inaccurate figure a multitude of collectors have been clamoring to get.

I say put the time and effort into the "Legends" of Marvel mythology and get them right FIRST. Let the newcomers and flash-in-the-pans get the imperfect initial renderings and then let THEIR fans wait for improved redos down the line.
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But then we get things like the costumes and designs based on concept art, like the MCU Quantum Suits which are inaccurate and, again, no one liked. I'm going to repaint mine one day - I only have three, shouldn't be hard. But I'm in no rush to correct that mistake for basically nothing costumes. Thank goodness they only went all-in on those for the cheap line. And that's just one example.

HOWEVER - I disagree with planning to let any product out the door "imperfect". That's not how to garner the respect of potential new fans of the source material - they'll be way more impressed with the accuracy and not "that's not how it looks in the game" and dropping it on the floor. We as consumers know when things are phoned in, and we know from a very early age. I still despise the it's Rogue/Polaris/Mystique/Jean that ToyBiz did. Nuh-uh.

Marrina could have absolutely used butterflies because we know that torso is getting reused on another flying/fighting character. But they probably didn't because a) cheap and b) they probably thought since it's representing bare skin on both the clean silhouette without so many cut lines would be preferable. Neither approach is necessarily wrong. But we all know it's really option A.
 
The Rivals figures both sold out on BBTS already. I'm a little surprised. Guess that makes my decision easy. I was thinking about getting Frank and maybe Luna, but if they're gonna be hard to get AND more expensive I just won't bother.

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They may get "restocked" in short order. I remember that happening with Maximum Spider-Man. I think Hasbro likes to play games with new launches to pump up demand.
 
Trunks3540 said:
The Rivals figures both sold out on BBTS already. I'm a little surprised. Guess that makes my decision easy. I was thinking about getting Frank and maybe Luna, but if they're gonna be hard to get AND more expensive I just won't bother.

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The Marvel's Rivals line is a mainline release so Walmart, Target, etc. should all be getting stock as well. These won't be hard to come by much like the last Gamerverse line (Capcom vs. Marvel).
 
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