Marvel Cinematic Universe Movies and Streaming Series Discussion

Just swinging by to say I watched the Marvel Zombies series today and the fourth episode has absolutely, hands down, some of the best artistry the MCU has ever done, like Fantasia/Love Deaith + Robots level beautiful work. I have THOUGHTS about how it ended, but it's a quick watch and it's fucking beautiful, absolutely elegant action sequences... it goes HARD.

And adding to the whole "is the MCU going to ever get right again" thing, it's also a really fun use of the characters the audience kinda rejected/ignored/threw away and really shows what kind of potential there was for Kamala, Kate Bishop, Riri, Shang-Chi, the Thunderbolts, with Spider-Man as an anchor to the past could be if the audience was willing to give it a chance.
 
I'm usually the first person to take action when bad things happen but I will shamefully admit I waited until the end of Alien: Earth to cancel my account and by the time I went to they'd backpedaled on the Kimmel thing and... selfishly, I didn't put my money where my mouth is. (I ended up putting my mouth where my mouth is by telling my rich neighbor to eat shit when he gloated about how his Disney stock would be fine next year no matter what, so I guess there's that, even if I didn't pull the trigger and cancel.)
 
In a way, I think that's better. And I really hope more satisfying.

@Chooch555 you could do like I do and read the summary on wiki. Or even watch newrockstars breakdown or something.
 
There was a plan for Shang Chi 2. It was going to be called "Shang Chi and the Wreckage of Time" and it was going to tie into the ten rings and the Multiverse saga. But then that real life thing reared it's ugly head again. The crap with Jonathan Majors happened and Kang got tossed out. So too, did the Wreckage of Time. I believe there'll be another Shang Chi but like with Black Panther, it's going to have to wait until after Secret Wars now.
This has piqued my interest. From what I can find it's mostly all rumors based on a copyright request for that title from Marvel. Is there any other concrete source on the rest of this info?

This is a real shame - this plotline makes a TON of narrative sense given the tag of the first film - unlike BSG, there WAS a plan all along! Another reason Marvel should have just recast Kang. Their refusal to recast T'Challa and Kang really shot their narrative momentum in the face.

I just rewatched Shang-Chi after reading the above rumor and I'm super bummed. A fun adventure with Shang-Chi, Katy, Sorceror Supreme Wong, possibly Carol and Kamala/Kate/Cassie? Yeah, why do that, it sounds terrible, let's just throw that whole thing away.

Xialing I guess never needs to be revisited. Her tag kind of works all on its own - if you remove the "The Ten Rings Will Return" part. 😬 She got what she wanted - her own empire AND her father's.
 
They do something in the Marvel Zombies bit that is clearly a callback to the T'Challa situation that while it works narratively in a What If is a real challenge for their overall live action stuff.
 
I have no problem with them not recasting Black Panther out of respect for Bozeman, but Kang they could easily have done given his multiversal nature.
 
I have no problem with them not recasting Black Panther out of respect for Bozeman, but Kang they could easily have done given his multiversal nature.
That would be true if they hadn't shown a massive auditorium with every single Kang looking like Majors! :LOL:
 
Whenever the Black Panther recasting thing comes up, I think what I would want if I were playing a popular iconic role and then died.
I know I would absolutely, incontrovertibly, 💯 want the role to recast and would deeply wish that the character would live on after me.

I’d be SUPER pissed if some folks refused to do that out of “respect”.
 
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