Damnit. If I had known this is how you felt, I would have just let you take this one heh.
Exactly. I felt oddly represented.
Both movies, and I'll throw Marvels in too, are fun with little fat.
Agreed.
Definitely a big issue, and it sucks that the show also got done in by reshoots due to the pandemic plot resembling the real world too much at the time. Which I would have argued was more reason to keep it in, but I get why they changed what's her name's background in BNW.
Yeah. It's got some thrills that are okay if you don't think about plot and motivations too hard.
Yeah, for REAL. I still say they should have worked his buddies and ex-wife into the plot, but there's so much more needed to make that movie good.
That makes me so happy to read. I remember watching Eternals at the cinema here in Rio during the "end" of Covid, masked, mostly empty room, when I was depressed as fuck, and coming out of it feeling a lot of joy, even though the movie is dark in a lot of ways. It just felt like a good film experience.
Yeah, I remember when Quantumania ended, I actually thought "well, the magic is over". It was just soulless and the emotional beats didn't work to me.
I forgot all about Marvels - yeah, actually my opinion on the Marvels is they had three wonderful leads having the time of their lives and the studio didn't give them time to BREATHE. The first act felt like a panic attack of trying to set up the story, but once the Marvels themselves start hanging out it's actually a lot of fun. And also the single greatest musical theater muffin joke in superhero history. Worth the price of admission for that one joke alone. It felt half-cooked but there was good ingredients in there.
Yeah, saw it in an empty theater and was like: I know this was not a sad movie, I know what I just watched, but why does my heart hurt so profoundly after watching this movie. The whole "they are worth saving because I love them" idea of how humanity could impact beings of cosmic power really hit home, especially at a time when it felt like maybe we weren't actually worth saving from ourselves. Even things I didn't love (the turn with Ikaris, for example) made sense. It's such a great companion piece to Gillen and Ribic's comic run, where each Eternal is less of a living creature but an idea. Ikaris is an arrow. He flies where you tell him to and knows nothing else.
Totally! It's the only marvel movie I am desperate to see a directors cut of. I seriously wish they hadn't cut the movie within an inch of its life.
Definitely how I feel. Some of the scenes with the three leads BEG to be extended. Also I do feel like there is just one beat between Monica and Carol needed in there.
Again, I wonder if the longer original cut would fix that.
Ugh, yes! Actually, it's another movie I would take an extended version of. Let me REALLY wallow in it.
Yes.
I get that, but how badly it hurts that he did that is why it's so good.
Nice. I still have never read an Eternals comic actually.
If that was my criteria, I don’t think I’d want to watch a single modern action movie. I’m just used to being roundly disappointed by goofy “boss fight” pixelated climaxes.
Yeah, there's been plenty of rushed CGI to be sure, but the fight around the train(?) was particularly bad. Like, completely took me out of the movie and could only focus on how terrible it was. I wish they'd do a Lucas and spend a few million and re-do that part, because the rest of the movie is so good.
Yes it needed more time - especially to explore the Carol and Monica dynamic around their falling out which could have had a great talking scene, and we needed to see more of Carol's attack on the Kree homeworld at the start and why she was struggling helping the Skrulls (and I wish someone would acknowledge why she looked like she was the same age as she was in her intro picture set 20 to 30 years prior)... I also think the inclusion of Kamala's family was a bit of a drag on the film - as much as I liked them in the show, they needed to be left on Earth and not be on the space station seeming to be more calm about people being swallowed by cats than the crew was....
Some really great points, as usual. I guess that's why I really don't mind some movies being just a fun ride. Some movies I need to be those big, phase or saga ending events, but usually I'm cool with just popcorn. Spider-Man I prefer to be street level fun, but still appreciated the heavier moments he can suffer through as well. Then something like Eternals or especially Thunderbolts really hits me hard and surprises me. But yeah, maybe the reasons you give are why things like Iron Man and Endgame will likely remain in my top five.