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SDcomics said:
Really looking forward to this set. Especially Starfox.

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I've already cleared a spot for him on my Avengers shelf.
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Same!!!
 
yojoebro82 said:
All I saw was a blanket statement that lumped all Christians into one condescending category. The kind of statement that would get someone run out of town if it was made about any other race, sex, or religion.
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How so?

That it is to say, you saw 'a statement' -- not the entire post, and went on to say you disagreed with the entire post? That's a little weird, you have to admit. Also that last sentence is just.. peak conservative 'the Christians are the only people you're allowed to persecute' kind of nonsense. Christians aren't a race or a gender. And you can criticize literally any religion any time you want. And should. Often. It's patently absurd to say that you can't say that about anyone but Christians. Of course you can. I have. SOOOO many times.

Also, while I can't be absolutely certain, I am -reasonably sure- that you don't even understand what my post was about if you think I'm attacking Christianity or Christians.
 
Hey, Beamish! How many more pre-Modern Era Avengers do we need now? (I consider the Pre-Modern Era to be everything before Avengers Disassembled or Avengers 500)

So ...

Mantis
Swordsman
Moondragon
Two-Gun Kid
Dr Druid
Hammond Human Torch
Firebird
Jack of Hearts

The unofficial guys like Golden Age Whizzer, Red Wolf, Jarvis, Rick Jones.

Updates to Falcon, Yellowjacket, first appearance Hercules and the Perez era Beast would be nice.

Who else?
 
Chooch555 said:
Got my Marvel Unlimited box. Not only did I get the old figure, it was 2024's box entirely - same comic, same litho, same patches, and a 2024 so far letter.
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I mean that makes sense. It would be pretty crazy if you got a mix and match of the two boxes.
 
Damien said:
How so?
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This is how so.
Damien said:
Christianity is famously flexible because Christians aren't actually Christian and nothing matters or actually means anything.
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I don't believe you'd make a disparaging blanket statement like that about any other group of people. Based on interactions from other threads I know we have things in common and I'm fine with leaving you to believe what you believe, but I didn't appreciate that one.

I'll leave you to go down the road of condescending statements and suppositions about what other people do or don't know or what they do and don't believe, but that will be without me.

I will say that Christians (in my case, Catholics) believe that Christ is the savior. He died for your sins and mine. That matters to us and it means a hell of a lot us.
 
SDcomics said:
Hey, Beamish! How many more pre-Modern Era Avengers do we need now? (I consider the Pre-Modern Era to be everything before Avengers Disassembled or Avengers 500)

So ...

Mantis
Swordsman
Moondragon
Two-Gun Kid
Dr Druid
Hammond Human Torch
Firebird
Jack of Hearts

The unofficial guys like Golden Age Whizzer, Red Wolf, Jarvis, Rick Jones.

Updates to Falcon, Yellowjacket, first appearance Hercules and the Perez era Beast would be nice.

Who else?
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There are 14 unmade official classic Avengers:
Swordsman
Mantis
Two-Gun Kid
Dr. Druid
Firebird
Demolition Man (I don't count the Scourge figure as his "official" figure)
Stingray
Jim Hammond Human Torch
Gilgamesh
Living Lightning
Triathlon
Silverclaw
Jack of Hearts
Lionheart

Honorary Members:
Whizzer
Starhawk
Martinex
Charlie-27
Nikki
Marrina
Yellowjacket II (Rita Demara)
Magdalene
Swordsman II (Phillip Javert)
Deathcry
Masque

As well as:
Rick Jones
Jarvis

Including frequent guests/almost Avengers:
Red Wolf
Shroud
Bill Foster

Lest we never forget:
Yellowjacket (Pym) update
Falcon update (classic red and white suit)
Hercules update (70s costume)
Perez Beast
Moondragon - classic, non-thong suit
 
yojoebro82 said:
I don't believe you'd make a disparaging blanket statement like that about any other group of people. Based on interactions from other threads I know we have things in common and I'm fine with leaving you to believe what you believe, but I didn't appreciate that one.

I'll leave you to go down the road of condescending statements and suppositions about what other people do or don't know or what they do and don't believe, but that will be without me.

I will say that Christians (in my case, Catholics) believe that Christ is the savior. He died for your sins and mine. That matters to us and it means a hell of a lot us.
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It wasn't a disparaging statement. That's why I made the 'condescending' supposition that you didn't understand my post. Because you didn't. Not because I think you are unintelligent or a bad person or anything. But just because your reaction demonstrates you didn't understand it.
And again, you are the one that said you didn't agree with my post when most of my post was simply a factual statement about different sects of Christianity.

And that's the problem, isn't it? You want to be offended about this. You don't want to understand the comment before being offended, just as you didn't want to read my entire post before deciding you disagree with the whole thing. It's just offensive because I said 'Christianity' in a post and you know I am not, myself, Christian. So anything I say must be an attack. It doesn't matter that I spent a decade of my life studying theology, including with and among actual priests and pastors (that I maintained friendships with - gasp gasp). I am literally making points that are current topics within -Christian- theology circles.

It's absurd to be offended by something you don't understand and also be unwilling to understand that thing. That's just saying 'I've decided I want to be offended today.' And that's unfortunate.
 
Beamish said:
There are 14 unmade official classic Avengers:
Swordsman
Mantis
Two-Gun Kid
Dr. Druid
Firebird
Demolition Man (I don't count the Scourge figure as his "official" figure)
Stingray
Jim Hammond Human Torch
Gilgamesh
Living Lightning
Triathlon
Silverclaw
Jack of Hearts
Lionheart

Honorary Members:
Whizzer
Starhawk
Martinex
Charlie-27
Nikki
Marrina
Yellowjacket II (Rita Demara)
Magdalene
Swordsman II (Phillip Javert)
Deathcry
Masque

As well as:
Rick Jones
Jarvis

Including frequent guests/almost Avengers:
Red Wolf
Shroud
Bill Foster

Lest we never forget:
Yellowjacket (Pym) update
Falcon update (classic red and white suit)
Hercules update (70s costume)
Perez Beast
Moondragon - classic, non-thong suit
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I knew you'd know the answer to that!

I forgot all about Bill Foster. A Black Goliath or Giant-Man figure would be so cool.
 
I was raised Catholic and still have a lot of reverence for the church, but also a lot of contempt. And I appreciate when people walk the walk as far as the teachings of Christ, but I also have a harder and harder time tolerating people who still believe when there is soooooooo much pain and suffering perpetuated in His name. Especially when, to me, it's all just made up. We'll never have anything as cool as Star Trek when so many are hung up on god and money.
 
Ru1977 said:
I was raised Catholic and still have a lot of reverence for the church, but also a lot of contempt. And I appreciate when people walk the walk as far as the teachings of Christ, but I also have a harder and harder time tolerating people who still believe when there is soooooooo much pain and suffering perpetuated in His name. Especially when, to me, it's all just made up. We'll never have anything as cool as Star Trek when so many are hung up on god and money.
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As intolerable as I also tend to find it all, I also have always found religious belief - and the discussion around religious belief - absolutely fascinating.

Like, to the point I was -actually- making earlier that has nothing to do with slandering anyone's beliefs; there's a disunited, massive group of people across the planet that identify as 'Christian.' But the argument is that no one is actually Christian because there's always a different type of Christian to say 'you're not doing it right.' Famously, Protestants were seen as borderline 'devil-worshipers' by the Catholic Church, for longer than anyone cares to talk about.

Of course, there are many newly evangelized areas where various superstitions or local customs are still observed which are in stark contrast to the 'proper' teachings of Catholicism. And many Southern Baptists have accused both Protestants and Catholics of not being true to the faith. And of course we can never forget that -most- Christians seem to argue that Mormons are definitely doing it wrong.

That is, after all, the crux of the 'nothing means anything' philosophical debate. Is the Bible, and the teachings of Christ, so malleable that everyone can be 'wrong' all at the same time? What is the 'real' Christianity, and does that even exist. And if it doesn't - can ANYONE be Christian? It's absolutely a fascinating discussion and, I will add, one that is a prominent topic -among Christian theologians.- This isn't like some 'got'cha' against Christians, but a conversation within the faith about what it means to be Christian and who gets to call themselves that.

I mean, obviously the most famous example is Trump's main man - Hitler. He was, nominally, a Christian. But most decent Christians today would totally disavow him and say he wasn't really Christian to be able to do the things he did. But how can you say someone ISN'T Christian without establishing what it is -- and if you establish what it is, that will inevitably leave someone out. And you inevitably have to make decisions about how to interpret a lot of things.

Another great example of this I've seen argued between what I guess would be more 'liberal' and more 'conservative' Christians is Leviticus 19:34. We're probably all familiar with this one by now; when the foreigner resides among you, he must be treated as your native-born. Love him as yourself.' Well, if that is the direct command of God his very own fancy self, then how can ANY Christian be anti-immigration, or pro-ICE? But many are. How does that circle square?

As -infuriating- as some of those discussions can be. They are also deeply, deeply interesting.
 
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