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I get the @Damien is making about legacy characters, but that bit with Sean Collins is one of the few post-Marvel bits I've read, and they absolutely made it make sense for why someone needed to continue his persona and have Cobra believe the original was still alive and out there. I haven't read any stories showing how Dawn started, but I have read some later one when she was a solid member of the team, alongside Helix etc.

yeah, and her being snake-eyes III is kind of a joke, but it's cause she got all the memories of Snake-Eyes I and it causes some fun moments when she's around Scarlett
 
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Anyone else ever have a problem checking out on Pulse? It will not accept my credit card info no matter what I do. Just keeps telling me it couldn't complete payment and to add a new payment method. Like what the fuck is wrong with this website? Is this not a multi-billion dollar company? They've got like one semi-retired guy doing all their backend?

The site has been giving me issues with checkout since the last update they did. It ALWAYS tells me my phone number is incorrect/formatted improperly, when it's saved in my account. I have to manually remove it and reenter it to get the order to go through. That's fun when you're racing everyone else for something everybody wants.
 
but beyond that, GI JOE, for me, should embrace being as silly and ridiculous as possible. like having zombie mutant Serpentor
To me this has nothing to do with legacy characters being a good or bad thing. Because it's not about legacy characters being silly in a fun or exciting way, it's about legacy characters being dumb in a stupid, unenjoyable way.

I get the @Damien is making about legacy characters, but that bit with Sean Collins is one of the few post-Marvel bits I've read, and they absolutely made it make sense for why someone needed to continue his persona and have Cobra believe the original was still alive and out there. I haven't read any stories showing how Dawn started, but I have read some later one when she was a solid member of the team, alongside Helix etc.
All of it sucks. Dawn is just 'well, they did it with Wolverine so why not.' (I say that as someone that likes Lauraverine).
They made the Sean thing make sense but it still felt forced. This wasn't a natural place for the story to go, this was a hatchet explanation for why they needed to keep making comic books with Snake Eyes in them. It was just 'you can't kill Wolverine because he sells comics.' Except in Joeverse you don't tend to bring people back from the dead willy-nilly either, so this was the compromise. I hate it.

It all just reeks to high hell of a story that wants to move on, but also can't, so it does the worst of both.
 
to each their own, bummer you're not as into it. For me, it just always feels like Larry wants this world to be as ridiculous and insane as possible
 
I mean, I'm framing it from my point of view, and you're framing it from your point of view. You think it's bad writing, i think it's fun writing. That's it.
 
I mean, I'm framing it from my point of view, and you're framing it from your point of view. You think it's bad writing, i think it's fun writing. That's it.
I don't mean it argumentatively. I'm just clarifying. Because you keep saying 'Larry wants this to be ridiculous' and 'I think it's good for Joe to be silly.' The implication you make when you say it like that is that I'm arguing against these things, and I'm not. If I say it's bad writing and you say 'I like it when it's silly' - you're making the implication that I think silly writing IS bad writing. Which is not what I'm saying.
 
I somewhat wonder, and maybe this is my own Joe ignorance speaking (as previously mentioned, I am a Joe dilettante and I cherish that title deeply), are the Joe fans really that dedicated to the core key characters the way X-Men fans are? Or is that just an assumption we have because they've always been there?

Legit question, I simply don't know. I can see how toy lines always need to hit those characters, but comics? I wonder. Then again, I recall how Claremont really wanted to cycle out X-Men over time, having them retire and move on or permadie, and you can see where he tries to do it multiple times, but he just can't keep the core group from coming back (editorial being a large part of that).
 
I somewhat wonder, and maybe this is my own Joe ignorance speaking (as previously mentioned, I am a Joe dilettante and I cherish that title deeply), are the Joe fans really that dedicated to the core key characters the way X-Men fans are? Or is that just an assumption we have because they've always been there?

Legit question, I simply don't know. I can see how toy lines always need to hit those characters, but comics? I wonder. Then again, I recall how Claremont really wanted to cycle out X-Men over time, having them retire and move on or permadie, and you can see where he tries to do it multiple times, but he just can't keep the core group from coming back (editorial being a large part of that).
I imagine so because there have been versions of GI Joe without Snake Eyes, like Extreme and I dunno... probably another one. And I'll admit, much like Wolverine (at least when I was reading during the Claremont run), my favorite stories have him in them. Or at least nine out of ten.
 
I think you'll get a different answer depending on who you ask?

Like, I have certain characters I love in GI Joe, but a lot of the official Joes are kinda bland to me, basic boring military guy in some way. But Cobra doesn't have a single character I'm not into.

The Cobra stories are so much more interesting cause like, they are the more fun characters because they lose so much more often.
 
I have certain characters I love in GI Joe, but a lot of the official Joes are kinda bland to me, basic boring military guy in some way. But Cobra doesn't have a single character I'm not into.
Yeah, basically same here. I love some characters a lot, and others I'm really into, but Cobra... I have to start getting choosy because my tendency is to just get everyone. But I always played like that, having one guy or a small team infiltrating the enemy based and taking them all out one by one, fighting their way to the throne room essentially. but yeah, the bad guys are always more interesting to me.
 
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