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It's definitely some weird logic to assume that people wouldn't want Scrooge. I mean, I get it...it'd be a figure of an old man in his night clothes...not something the average collector is clamoring for. At the same time, they've made Marley and the Ghost of Christmas Past, with the plan to make Christmas Present and Christmas Future at some point...they all appear TO SCROOGE! Old man in a nightgown wouldn't sell if that is who they started with, but that isn't the case here. At the point that they finish the ghosts, all those who have invested in this set will want Ebeneezer to complete the core cast. I cannot imagine anyone who has bought all four ghosts just saying "naw, don't need Scrooge...he isn't that important". I'd completely understand if this was a character like Tiny Tim they were expressing doubts about, but it's literally the MAIN FREAKING CHARACTER!

If they are REALLY that concerned about it, do a two pack of the final ghost and Scrooge. The Ghost of Christmas Future is usually depicted as a Grim Reaper type of figure anyway, and we know they have plenty of parts to make that without spending a dime on new tooling. If anything THAT ghost is the one that collectors might skip buying because they can cobble together what they need to make him from existing figures, so pack him and Scrooge together and call it a day!
 
I'm surprised at the lack of plans for Scrooge just because he should be pretty easy and cheap to pull off. They must have enough parts to cobble something together at this point where all they really need to tool is a couple of heads. Then it's just soft goods and whatever accessories they want to do.
 
Honestly, a new head and a soft-goods sleeping shirt on the zombie body with human bare feet and you could pull him off. Not perfect, but most of the parts are there. I wonder if they just think "old man boring" because he's not a spirit or monster they can get creative with.
 
Misfit said:
They must have enough parts to cobble something together at this point where all they really need to tool is a couple of heads. Then it's just soft goods and whatever accessories they want to do.
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We're all picturing an old man Scrooge head on a barbarian body, right?
"Scrooge! What is best in life?"
"To crush the poor, see them driven before you, and to decrease the surplus population."
TheGillMan said:
Old man in a nightgown wouldn't sell...
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docsilence said:
I wonder if they just think "old man boring" because he's not a spirit or monster they can get creative with.
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This is the reason I'm still very doubtful we'll ever see Scrooge. It's a toy of an old man in a Victorian nightgown. The market for that figure is exclusively folks who bought every other 4H Christmas Carol figure and just want the complete set. There's another thread ("You Ever Get Tired of This?") in which everyone is specifically talking about burnout and pulling back from collecting less-desired figures just to complete a set. I just don't see how it makes economic sense to produce Scrooge. If anything, they missed their chance to make a 2 pack of Marley and Scrooge, who could stand on their own as a pair without the other ghosts.

I'm frankly surprised the Horsemen haven't just pointed at their previous Father Christmas and Maxillius figures and said, "Look, the ghosts are all here. We can move on now."

But I'm also a grinch so take my Xmas opinions with a grain of salt.
 
Yeah, Scrooge with CYTC makes the most sense, but Marley w/ Scrooge is a better pair that can stand alone with each other, or without the Christmas ghosts if you don’t have them. I’m hoping for the former, and will be hella annoyed if it’s the latter because I don’t need two Marleys (unless they’re shaped like Statler and Waldorf)
 
I mean, on paper Scrooge might seem bland or not "toyetic" enough, but I think there are plenty of ways to punch up the kit, either as a 2-pack as others have mentioned, or by including some cool and creative accessories (especially good custom fodder), or allow him to morph into someone else through creative pack ins. Throw on a new robe and he's a sorcerer or alchemist or something, like the Mouse King can be a generic rat monster if you so choose.

I also think, if you're only going to get one figure to represent a Christmas Carol on your shelf, it would be the man himself.
 
I mean hilariously they just put the world's sexiest high fantasy banker up for preorder... pretty sure they could make a badass looking Scrooge.
 
I will say, I am one of the few (many?) who doesn't place much value on Scrooge as a figure. If they make him I'll probably get him, if they don't I won't mind. I think the ghosts are more interesting designs and make for good toys and unique Christmas items. Packing Scrooge in with the final ghost makes the most sense should they want to go that way. Otherwise, I could see them doing a more elegant, early story Scrooge that could lend itself to parts reuse and maybe it can be broken down into nighttime Scrooge. If they can make Santa Claus not look like a hulking behemoth then I think they can pull the same trick with Scrooge.
 
Father Christmas was a little iffy with the execution. The robe did the heavy lifting. He’s fully armored underneath and not by design but necessity. Thankfully, they’ve gotten better at creating new parts when needed and not relying much on old tooling.

I still think Scrooge is an interesting challenge with the previously mentioned zombie body being the only real unarmored parts they’d have available that could work. The soft goods nightgown could cover up most of the most zombified areas and still keep Scrooge slender rather than hulking.

I could see plenty of Victorian accessories that could really plus him up. If he’s meant to represent that last Stave, some non-nightgown clothes would be nice to see as well for the morning-after festivities. Perhaps utilizing some of Marley (assuming they dressed similarly)? You’d almost end up with a two pack though and I really don’t see that happening.
 
I'd think they'd be more likely to make Scrooge in his bed clothes, as I can't think of too much reuse that would go into making an elderly Victorian gentleman with a top hat?

Basically thinking the Red Death or some zombie wearing an overlay and just slap an old man in a sleeping cap on top. Give him a candle holder and shove him out the door. But noooo, we need a 3 headed rat wearing chicken bones on its head for Christmas.
 
It all comes down to approach. Scrooge is an old guy, but he's not always portrayed as some spindly, slight, elderly man. Michael Caine isn't exactly a small guy and I don't recall anyone ever critiquing how he looks in The Muppets Christmas Carol. If anything, that might be the most popular portrayal of Scrooge in this day and age. We do have the painting of Scrooge in his study that came with Marley and he does appear to be pretty skinny there, but I don't think they are beholden to that look. If they want to make a Scrooge, I don't think they need worry about tooling an entirely new body to accomplish such a thing. It will come down to if they want to do it, feel it's necessary, and think it will sell.
 
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