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Saw a discussion on Threads where people are making the obvious equivalences to 1984, Fahrenheit, Animal Farm. Whatever helps.

But of course in come the high and mighty ethical intellectuals telling everyone hey, if we're going to be protesting Trump and conservative America, maybe let's not use all these authors who were anti-communists, pro cop, whatever, you know all the buzzwords at this point. "Actually, that makes you worse than them," actual quote.

And it's like... Come on. You've got some people getting their first hit of that radicalization joint. So instead you're just going to gatekeep them with how much cooler and ethically superior you are. I have seen this for years in every group and it just infuriates me because that's how people end up on the other side. You have bullied them right out of the space they were sniffing out.

Moral peacocking is the single thing I hate most on the internet. Half the times nowadays you can't talk about a game or movie or something you like without it being about some guy involved being problematic or something. Like, sure, people should be aware, but why should I think about it and have it brought up every time I think about that work? Every single popular fandom I see around daily has at least one major actor or writer who is some terrible thing.

In the case of all the landmark anti-fascist works that people tend to know and reference, they're all around 80 fucking years old with authors that have been long dead. No shit those guys and their books aren't going to 1:1 match our ideals and preferred narratives! But even still, accessible entry points are needed even if flawed... especially with how right-wingers love to put their narratives out there in accessible, easily consumable manners to induct everyone. Including children. ESPECIALLY children.
 
especially with how right-wingers love to put their narratives out there in accessible, easily consumable manners to induct everyone. Including children. ESPECIALLY children.
For those who didn't notice it in the upper left corner of the last poster, this propaganda is aimed squarely at the under 25, no cap fr demographic.
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At this point, MAGA in general is either too indoctrinated and clueless or else too outright malevolent to live peacefully alongside in society, regardless of outcome, and I really don’t know what to do with or about that.
Biden had the chance to fix this. Same with Reconstruction.

You have to make it so shameful to support MAGA that no one ever admits to it again. Some of it will happen naturally. They're about to shove the economy off the side of a cliff. Clear violations of the Bill of Rights—especially stuff targeted at white men like Jimmy Kimmel—will piss people off. As much as our elites have capitulated, we're still the country of the Boston Tea Party. Other toxically unpopular policy, like killing vaccine mandates, will turn more normies against them.

Part two is torching the MAGA legacy. Destroy every policy victory. Remove their judges. By the end, there should be nothing to look back on.

Part three is the most important: prosecute, prosecute, prosecute. There shouldn't be a single MAGA advisor, ICE agent, or politician who gets by unscathed. Make an example. Vance is gleefully celebrating war crimes on camera. Put his ass on trial. Cover them in the stink of their failure. Every single one should be branded a criminal.

It would've been easier to deal with this in 1993 than 2009. It would've been easier to deal with this in 2009 than 2021. It would've been easier to deal with this in 2021 than 2029. At some point, you have to stop kicking the can down the road. The next president will have the most important job in this country since at least Lincoln.
I don't see anything getting even slightly resolved in our lifetime
It's possible. I have to believe it will burn out quickly.

1) Dear Leader is OLD.
2) Dear Leader is unpopular.
3) Can you imagine a scenario in which New York City puts up with this for another 10 years? 50? How about the West Coast? Once they put the Constitution to the torch, there's little binding the states to the union.

The Third Reich was supposed to last 1000 years. Ask the Germans how it's going now.
We are literally still dealing with indoctrination and beliefs that vary from 300 years old to 2,000 years old. We never wipe it clean.
No, we never do. A strongman always finds a way to accumulate power. A complacent populace always puts its faith in the wrong person.

As the saying goes, "Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times."

We can't win, but we can beat back the darkness for a lifetime. We can unrig our representation. We can warn future generations about what happened. We can make it harder for this to happen again.

It's all cyclical. It's been downhill since Roe v. Wade in 1973. We're due for a win. To finish the quote: Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times.
We never learn from it. We just tell ourselves we 'won' for a little while until the same beliefs and same problems and same psychotic losers pop up again like the universe's most fucked up version of whack-a-mole. Until, eventually, they'll win. Because THEY are the only side with the actual desire to wipe out the opposition completely.
Hasn't happened yet.
Saw a discussion on Threads where people are making the obvious equivalences to 1984, Fahrenheit, Animal Farm. Whatever helps.

But of course in come the high and mighty ethical intellectuals telling everyone hey, if we're going to be protesting Trump and conservative America, maybe let's not use all these authors who were anti-communists, pro cop, whatever, you know all the buzzwords at this point. "Actually, that makes you worse than them," actual quote.

And it's like... Come on. You've got some people getting their first hit of that radicalization joint. So instead you're just going to gatekeep them with how much cooler and ethically superior you are. I have seen this for years in every group and it just infuriates me because that's how people end up on the other side. You have bullied them right out of the space they were sniffing out.
Big-time loser shit.

 
I don't know how I missed the giant golden Trump statue with the Bitcoin that was installed in DC. It is real, right? Like...it looks fake, but it also looks real. I hate how I genuinely can't tell anymore. Feel like I'm taking crazy pills. But I also don't know if I want it to be real or not. I just....sigh.
 
Buddy Trump over here.

I want to put a McMuffin vandalism over the coin.

Man. If erecting a gilded statues in the face of the economic concerns many people have doesn't turn the burner up, I don't know what will.
 
Ask the Germans how it's going now.
The extreme right wing in Germany just took power again for the first time since WWII. We. Learn. Nothing.



We can unrig our representation. We can warn future generations about what happened. We can make it harder for this to happen again.
And we keep saying that but never actually doing it. Hence where we are now.


Hasn't happened yet.
It has in other countries. The majority of the Middle-east used to be far more liberal than it is now. How many people have to be tortured and killed in Saudi Arabia before ANY progress over there isn't even a victory anymore? They're sportswashing their entire culture while they still throw gay people off buildings and behead blasphemers. Things aren't getting better over there any time soon. And we keep acting like it can't happen here, or if it does it'll just be temporary. We are not God's Special Little Guys that are immune to the declines other countries have faced and LOST.
 
The extreme right wing in Germany just took power again for the first time since WWII. We. Learn. Nothing.
It took 80 years for the AfD to rise from the Nazi Party's ashes. FWIW, the center right controls the government, not the lunatics. Not yet, at least.
It has in other countries. The majority of the Middle-east used to be far more liberal than it is now. How many people have to be tortured and killed in Saudi Arabia before ANY progress over there isn't even a victory anymore? They're sportswashing their entire culture while they still throw gay people off buildings and behead blasphemers. Things aren't getting better over there any time soon. And we keep acting like it can't happen here, or if it does it'll just be temporary.
We're a lot wealthier and a lot more educated than the Middle East.
We are not God's Special Little Guys that are immune to the declines other countries have faced and LOST.
Totally. Like it or not, a new America is coming. It's been inevitable since Bush, and more likely Reagan or Nixon. Trump's election made it a speedrun instead of a slow burn.

I'm determined to make sure the new America is a better America rather than a billionaire-run fascist America.
 
This is the kind of stuff the Department of Labor posts on FB nowadays.


And Homeland Security:
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Very volksturm, very fatherland. That last one would legit be a Cobra recruitment poster with a few tweaks. I swear to the gods it seems like something somebody did to make fun of him, but it's an official DHS post.

Ah, yes, because if there's one thing I want to see the President doing, it's operating a giant turret. As if he'd even know how to use the thing, with those tiny little hands of his. Also, why is he caressing the gun? Ah, nevermind- it writes itself.

Also, not to take away from your point, but... is this guy like a male portrait of the Statue of Liberty?
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You didn't know the Statue of Liberty was a drag queen? This is her out of drag. 🤪 Kinda wanna tell that to some MAGA folks and watch their heads explode.

Also, I know they're going for the old WWII propaganda posters here, but as if any young person on either side of the aisle dresses like that nowadays. Ain't nobody gonna look at that and see themselves in it.
 
If it's something he can't figure out how to fuck, he will at least fondle it.
When you're a celebrity, you can just grab it by the firing pin. They let you do it.


It took 80 years for the AfD to rise from the Nazi Party's ashes. FWIW, the center right controls the government, not the lunatics. Not yet, at least.
The center right is the far right. Even making a distinction at this point is another thing that makes me worry that we've learned nothing.
But 80 years is not a long time in the grand scheme of history. A better way to put it is that it ONLY took 80 years for GERMANY to bring back its Nazis. If FUCKING GERMANY, where most Nazi bullshit is straight up illegal, can fall this far back in less than a century, we may be well and truly fucked.


We're a lot wealthier and a lot more educated than the Middle East.
We're not. Not in practical terms, at least. Study after study shows that conservative voters in the US (which is easily about half of the people that show up to vote) are deeply uneducated, superstitious, and religiously-motivated. Republicans have spent the last 80 years turning as much of the population as they can into the kind of uneducated, credulous dipshits they NEED to win elections. You could argue that the US's lack of education and deep, abiding poverty/subsistence living for 60% of the population isn't as organic as it may have been in the Middle-east, but organic or manufactured still gets us to the same place.

North Korea is another absolutely wonderful example of what a cult of personality can do. Look how disgustingly entrenched they are in the actual divinity of some ugly little troll dipshit. That took effectively two generations and most of that population is hopelessly beyond saving. Everyone keeps saying Trump's cult of personality dies with him because he's the only one with charisma (which is such a gross way to put it because he's as charismatic as rusty nails shoved into your dickhole). That's bullshit.
Kim Il Sung was charismatic and developed a cult of personality. His son, Jong Il, and grandson, Jong Un, were/are subhuman little monsters with the force of personality of a dead cockroach floating in spoiled milk. It just doesn't MATTER anymore. It's crazy to think there is no chance that it won't matter to MAGA either.

Look at Charlie Kirk. These people will fall all over themselves to find someone to worship.
 
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