DC Studios Movies and Streaming Series Discussion

I got to see the movie today, and I really enjoyed it. I really liked everyone they cast. Everyone did a great job as the character they portrayed, even if they had minimal screen time.

This film reminded me of the MCU's early films as they got started and laid groundwork and found their pace. This was a DC Superman version of Phase 1 Captain America, Thor, etc. It was just a fun action filled comic book movie. A perfect starting off point to grow from and begin telling other stories that are part of a connected Universe.

I left the movie happy and excited for Peacemaker Season 2, The Green Lantern Corps, and Supergirl. If I gave it a 5 Star rating, it's definitely a 3.5, maybe a 4.
 
Okay, because you guys know I like to compile lists.

DC Studios: Gods and Monsters Ten Year Plan

Creature Commandos December 5th, 2024
Superman July 11th, 2025
Peacemaker Season 2 August 21st, 2025
Supergirl June 26th, 2026
Lanterns Early 2026
Clayface September 11th, 2026

On the Elseworlds side of things, The Batman Part II will be out on October 1st, 2027.

Lots of things in development in the DCU. Batman: The Brave and the Bold, Creature Commandos Season 2, Teen Titans, Swamp Thing, Sgt Rock, The Authority and a whole slew of others. Just today word came down that a Wonder Woman film has apparently been fast tracked. Cool.
 
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I was not a fan of Supergirl showing up at the end of the movie.

But I just read something on FB justifying "hot mess" Kara, and it made sense to me. Let's be honest, Supergirl is one of those characters that does not have a greatly defined personality. You can't get away with doing a take on Spider-Man or Batman that's too left-field because their personalities and motivations are solidified. Supergirl is not one of those characters. She's a character who the powers that be are more willing to let creators throw something at the wall to see what sticks. I'll give "hot mess" Supergirl a shot (I've got a Barnes and Nobel gift card that I'm planning to buy Woman of Tomorrow with), but I still don't think she needed to be tacked on at the end of the Superman movie.
 
I read that Supergirl came off that way, sort of drunk and at a low point, because that’s where she is. She was sent from Krypton to look after Kal El, but arrived too late. He had already established himself, leaving her with no duty to fulfill. So she’s lost. There’s a valid reason for how she was depicted, it wasn’t just a throwaway scene.
 
Yeah that's all brought up in the article I read, and that's fine if they want to go that rout. But the viewer doesn't know that by watching the Superman movie, it requires additional homework. As it stands, drunk Supergirl just showed up. I don't feel it added anything to the Superman movie.
 
At the time, I just saw it as payoff for Superman's foster comment and it gave me a chuckle. I don't have much experience with the character, but the little I do have she was always just Superman, but a girl, which isn't exactly interesting. A Supergirl who is kind of a fuck up could have potential as long as Gunn doesn't turn her into a Deadpool knock-off. I showed my daughter that teaser image which prompted a "YES!" response from her, so for her sake I hope it's good.
 
Finally saw the movie last night and really enjoyed it. I like that we joined the universe already in motion; felt very comic book-y, but in a good way. Allowed more time to get to know the characters and have fun with them. That sense of "fun" was pervasive, and really injected some much-needed likability into the characters. As much as I enjoy Cavill, and enjoyed Man of Steel at the time, it's literally night and day between the two. This Superman was fun, boyish, charming, warm- everything I felt Cavill's Supes wasn't (or wasn't allowed to be too much of), and I can't wait until he shares the screen with more of the dour, dark characters. Even the juxtaposition of him with Mr. Terrific was really nice, and Batman is way more brooding than Terrific.

It was very- almost too stylish at times, but I saw something on the internet the other day that said a lot of it probably looked strange because it was a style that our brains hadn't yet seen much of- everything that we know and love and feels special and unique in movies was, at one time, new and jarring. It was a very unique, new-ish style that almost flies in the face of a lot of the more realistic comic films these days.

Really liked seeing some of the lesser-known (or at least lesser-used) characters too. Mr. Terrific was definitely the highlight, and it sucks that I can't just go and get his Multiverse figure. Hope if and when Mattel gets around to making him in the future, they don't pull the same shenanigans. Guy Gardner was a lot of fun too, and I think Fillion played him perfectly- just like I imagined him in the comics. I liked their take on Lex too. A barely contained, self-aggrandizing toxic manbaby is exactly who he'd be in our day and age; there's still plenty of time for him to evolve into the calm, calculated, controlled villain we all know. Metamorpho and Hawkgirl were, admittedly a little under-whelming, but I think they still stood out for the short amount of time they got. It's a shame Metamorpho's figure didn't come with any other sort of hand- Kryptonite, that big hammer, etc. or a little squiggly body to put his head onto; they easily could've made him a theatrical deluxe as well.

I do agree that it felt a little too episodic at times, but I liked it- helped it feel even more like a comic book come to life, and the movie was the full trade paperback. I know Gunn said each movie will have its own feel and identity, but I really enjoyed the feel of this one- hopeful, inspiring, and just what we need in these dark times. Some of those scenes- the one with Pa Kent and Superman's speech to Lex at the end- definitely struck a nerve (in a good way). I'm still a Batman guy through and through, but this was maybe the first time I really found myself enjoying Superman, and I'm eager to see where the universe goes from here.

Now to try and track down the figures. 😅 Oh, Todd, why do you play these games with us? If he'd just made Terrific and the Robots regular releases, I'd argue they'd still fly off shelves; Terrific was a standout, and the Robot is an army builder. Definitely want at least Superman (and Krypto, of course), Terrific, and Lex.
 
That's too bad about Hawk girl, though I did expect her to be little more than a big cameo. But Last Of Us made me a massive fan of hers because she can give an incredible performance with seemingly little effort.

Supergirl, my only real experience with was the TV show and I loved her character in that. Aside from the hot mess aspect, her origin there sounds the same as far as getting her after him and not being there for his upbringing as planned. The other thing about her is she was a lot older than him when they left but younger now, but because of being on krypton longer than Kal, she will eventually be more powerful than him the more exposure she gets to our sun.
 
There was also an aspect that James Gunn discussed in an interview that essentially she saw Krypton explode, then lost folks in Kandor, then Kandor goes away. She has a lot of loss before coming to Earth.
 
I'll defend Hoult's Lex. He was definitely comic book evil. It's true his motivations could have been explained better, but it was well acted. I liked his bad guy speech at the end of the movie.
Motivation or plan? Because his motives seemed to be explained really well - by himself even, for that matter. He's the smartest and (presumably) richest guy in the world, yet he doesn't get the respect he deserves because the dumb people of Earth prefer to favor the alien with strong muscles instead of him. The alien who decided to call himself a "super man" when he's actually no more than an "it". Lex is a self proclaimed hater employing a literal army of shitposting monkeys.
Another bit of poor writing was when Mr. Terrific essentially said "I know all the guys, there's no way that was faked" in regards to the recording. Really? Lex Luthor can build a pocket dimension full of typing monkeys but he can't fake a recording? (and yes, I know he didn't HAVE to fake it because it was real. But given how far real life technology is, it would not be a stretch for Luthor, so I'm not sure why they'd be so quick to dismiss it)
I will agree that the "I know all the computer guys" was unintentionally funny. I have nothing against the Els being a bit on the warmongering side, I can even understand the thought process of wanting your only son - and the last son of your planet for that matter - making more Kryptonians on Earth. On the moviemaking side, though, it really felt like there was gonna be an "a-ha!" moment to dovetail it, like in Birthright for example. But there was no such thing.
Nothing wrong with Batman and Superman having less than perfect, complicated parents.
Superman's new origin is just Goku
Which is funny, considering Goku's new origin is just Superman.
Superman isn't a power fantasy, he's an altruism fantasy. This was my Superman. He'll do everything in his power to save everyone.
Like Spider-Man! I really wish to see a fully realized Spidey in his "nobody dies" mode on screen one day.
I'm seeing a lot of people refer to the movie's comic book-y-ness and I'm personally ready for that after DC spent so much time "grounded in reality" with Nolan, Snyder, and The Batman. Besides, monkeys in a pocket dimension using the internet to influence peoples' thoughts is absolutely EXACTLY what is happening right now in real life. So it's not like it's devoid of realism.
Still think Robbat Battinbat would mix in an interesting way with what we've seen in Superman, if they end up putting him in the new DCU. The Batman was the most comicbooky Batman movie, in my opinion.
I liked the Kaiju battle, but didn’t get why there were so many onlookers staying dangerously close. Conversely, Metropolis residents managed to evacuate way too quickly for the threat at the climax of the movie.
I loved those situations, actually. The entire plot of this movie was what, maybe a weeklong? And Metropolis was hit by 4 separate metadisasters - Hammer of Boravia, kaiju, dimensional imp and city falling apart. Metahumans have been active in that world for the past three centuries, the people of Metropolis are used to their shenanigans by now.
 
I wasn't going to bring this up, but what was up with that ending? In a movie filled with themes of kindness and empathy...

...was it really necessary to take, what I felt was a cheap shot at people named Gary? Gary isn't a cool enough name for a robot? Ha ha ha, big joke. Well let me tell you, I felt the glances of everyone I was with and I was practically sinking into my recliner.
 
So Brightburn was what if Superman was sent by an alien culture to infiltrate and start the invasion, and Superman is what if Brightburn but he was a good guy.
 
I quite liked Lex and thought he was just the right amount of arrogant. He truly does see himself as humanity's savior and will go to lengths that Superman won't to prove it. In his eyes, it should be a human saving humanity, and he believes he was given his skills- brains and money- in order to be their savior. To the public, he's very calm and composed, but behind closed doors he's a second away from losing his cool. I liked the Russian Roulette scene because it shows just how passive he is toward it all- he'll happily execute a man and lament the fact the torture didn't go on long enough, then not break a sweat because he knows he has more options to get what he wants. Ironically, he's willing to do anything to be humanity's savior, even if it means destroying them in the process.

I wasn't going to bring this up, but what was up with that ending? In a movie filled with themes of kindness and empathy...

...was it really necessary to take, what I felt was a cheap shot at people named Gary? Gary isn't a cool enough name for a robot? Ha ha ha, big joke. Well let me tell you, I felt the glances of everyone I was with and I was practically sinking into my recliner.
Forgive me- I don't know if your post was sarcastic or not, but what I got was the opposite. Robot #4 liked the name Gary and felt it would've been a cool name to have. I don't know if you noticed, but in the credits, Alan Tudyk was credited as "Gary", not "Robot #4", so he got his name in the end. I think, if anything, it was just a little jab at how plain the name "Gary" sounds. It's a saltine cracker kind of name, just due to connotations, just like my name, Josh, is usually given to jocks and jerks.

Thanks for the reminder on Brightburn, Ru. Never seen it, but I've been meaning to check it out. Heard mixed things, but I'm curious.
 
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