X-Men '97

TheCaptain said:
That's what I mean - they're basically admitting defeat right from the start. Including Magik as a cameo in season 1 is them saying that she's never gonna be a real character in this show, which just seems like throwing in the towel too early. There's no good reason why this show couldn't run for a decade, add a spinoff, and cover stuff like the splinter teams in decent depth. I guess that's just the problem with seasonal television though, future seasons are never guaranteed so they can't really plan out 6 seasons in advance, making them just cross off that checklist of iconic character moments and costumes as quickly as they can. Good for anyone who wants those costumes in toy form too I guess, barring the stylistic incompatibilities mentioned earlier.
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You said it yourself.
The creators are just operating within the known constraints. I don't think it's fair to ask them to bank on telling a story that would require them to run for as long as some of the most successful cartoons not on prime time. They know that's not going to happen, or that it's at best extremely unlikely. So the decision has to be made to throw out some fan service and fun stuff 'just because' - or just never have those things appear in animation ever.

Look, I want a full on X-Force show just like the current X-Men show. But I'd rather see 9 seconds of Shatterstar helping the X-Men in this show than just never see Shatterstar ever appear in animation for the rest of my life. Because the latter is just... way.. way.. way more likely to be the case.
 
Maybe it's just blind optimism, but I don't necessarily think characters having a cameo early on means they can't play a part later on. Unless, you know, they got wiped out at Genosha, but I'd like to think they kept certain characters like Emma, and even made a point of her being alive, to use her later. Characters come and go all the time in the Marvel universe, X-Men especially. And who knows, now that Beau is out as showrunner, and his plan beyond season 2 is more or less being thrown out/reworked, that could mean we'll get mutants we wouldn't have otherwise (alternatively could mean we won't get mutants we would have, but still). They've brought people back from the dead before- it's a universe where anything is possible.
 
Relevant to this conversation; X-Men '97 has reportedly been picked up for Season 3 already. So apparently they did learn something from the success of Season 2 and want to get Season 3 rolling while Season 2 is airing. That'll be nice.

But also.. yeah.. even death means nothing in comics, and in X-Men specifically. So I don't think anything is really off the table here anyway.
I'm interested to see how they handle Wolverine. He pops up in the trailer with the brown costume and metal claws, but like.....? How?
 
I would hope that having lots of Apocalypse means Archangel factors in a decent amount for obvious reasons. Most of what I saw in the trailer was a laundry list of toy "looks" we can likely expect. Personally I'm not really wow-ed by the Sunspot we got and would have rather that spot gone to Bastion and just saved Sunspot for the season 2 waves where it appears as though he's got his 90s X-Force costume.

That Animated Psylocke and Archangel would be definite buys for me personally. I just hope they don't go so heavy on X-Men 97 that MOST of the X-Men stuff we get is being dedicated to that property rather than comic stuff too. So far I'd say they've respected both universes a decent amount without letting one completely overshadow the other. Don't know that I'll be going all in on movie waves after 2 different forms of media as X-Men characters are being fed to us non-stop.
 
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