U.S. Politics

He’d love to bomb us.
I’m seeing all kinds of posts on social media with folks literally calling for the Marines to kill us.
 
Apparently 700 marines were sent to LA now.

They're probably being called up from Camp Pendleton, which means they're no doubt in the city by now.

I believe I'm the only one here who's actually served in the US military, so let me point something out. As a service member you do NOT have to obey a direct order if you consider it unlawful. Let me repeat that: You do NOT have to obey an order if you consider it unlawful. In fact you have a duty and an obligation to NOT obey it. That's according to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) and the constitution. Look it up if you don't want to believe me.

What would make an order unlawful? How about firing into a group of unarmed American citizens who are assembled to exercise their constitutional right to peacefully protest? If that doesn't fit the textbook definition of unlawful, then I don't know what the hell would.

I know most of you are too young to remember the Kent State Massacre. I remember it. It happened on May 4th, 1970. I remember it very well. You can read about it at that link, but that was an epic disaster that still has repercussions that are being felt to this day. 28 Ohio National Guardsman fired into a crowd of student protestors at Kent State University, killing 4 and wounding 9 others. That atrocious, horrible event very nearly caused another civil war. No joke and no exaggeration. That was a terrible summer.

Are there psychos serving in the military? Of course there are. There are psychos in every walk of life. There are probably a few psychos among the protestors who are just aching for an excuse to hurt somebody. But they are most certainly the exception and not the rule.

I mean, I just for the life of me cannot picture some 18 year old, fresh off the farm and fresh out of boot camp, firing into a crowd of unarmed fellow Americans. We were trained in boot camp to follow orders, but we were also trained not to if it feels wrong. And no officer I ever served with would ever give such an order anyway.

I'm hoping for the best because ... well, because I guess I'm just a hopeless optimist.

We'll have to wait and see how this is all going to play out. As a Veteran, deploying service members on our own land to an environment where the potential for civilian casualties is high is a recipe for disaster. There will be severe emotional/ moral/ ethical consequences for all involved. This is not a road we should be willing to go down. Ever.
 
Tin soldiers and Nixons coming
You remember it too.

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming
We're finally on our own
This summer I hear the drumming
Four dead in Ohio

Gotta get down to it, soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been gone long ago
What if you knew her and found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?
 
There’s something happening here
What it is ain’t exactly clear
There’s a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware.

I think it’s time we stop, children, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down.
 
Flames and smoke from the freeway driving to the office this afternoon. Choppers circling. Cops’ lights flashing.
Basically quiet here at the office.
Hour and a half and I go home.
My wife made it home already.
Wild to just not know what’s coming next.
It’s kind of the same creeping dread as the fires six months ago, but also very different and perhaps more insidious because this isn’t nature, this is the petulant will of one man.
I hope our troops have the presence of mind and the will to do the right thing.
 
Australian reporter shot from behind with a rubber bullet a close range - camera catches the cop look, aim, and fire. Literally NOTHING happening in the vicinity to prompt the shot. This is why we can't trust anyone on the other side of the line. The whole situation is one MAGA shitheel getting trigger happy away from exploding.
that was just some bullshit right there, shooting a reporter in the back while she was doing her job unprovoked!
that guy needs to be fired
I believe it was a CHP
also a BBC reporter shot by a foam/rubber bullet
 
that was just some bullshit right there, shooting a reporter in the back while she was doing her job unprovoked!
that guy needs to be fired
I believe it was a CHP
also a BBC reporter shot by a foam/rubber bullet
Just watched footage of cops telling protestors to just carry a woman away after they shot her in the head with a rubber bullet. We've seen enough protests in the last 15 years to know you aren't supposed to aim those fuckers AT a person but bounce them off the ground, so if you're headshotting people with rubber bullets you're either a sadistic fuck or too stupid to use your own equipment, and either way, you shouldn't be in law enforcement and probably shouldn't be allowed around firearms in general.

Guy off camera at the end of the video says "aren't you supposed to protect and serve?"

Word is we'll see similar protests in Boston this weekend. ICE has been up our ass for months here and people are fed up.

I'd say he should be fired -and- arrested for battery, assault with a deadly weapon, and probably careless use of a firearm. Disgusting behaviour and even more disgusting knowing it will have zero consequences.
An Aussie friend asked if the reporter could sue and I'm like: if you only knew how much tax payer money goes into dealing with cops assaulting people in this country

Of course if he gets fired he'll disappear for a few weeks then get a job at another department down the way in a few months.
 
Word is we'll see similar protests in Boston this weekend. ICE has been up our ass for months here and people are fed up.
MA is an open carry state and boy howdy would I laugh my fucking ass off if some ICE Nazi fuck gets his head blown off putting his hands on the wrong pissed off Bostonian.
 
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