The Chatty Pointless Thread

[vicious]

I don't think I've ever heard "simple" and "Blender" in the same sentence before

zbrush is cool but it can certainly be a headache to learn. but it's a lot of fun with a tablet. kind of depends what you want to make. i mostly sculpt muscle girls and their fitted clothes

most certainly my best tip for learning anatomy: download PureRef and hoard references like crazy. Make big canvases of references and use them often.

 

[Niko (protozoalord)]

100% my hope that this'll help me with 2D anatomy! Blocking out anatomy in a 3D setting will certainly help with some forms of understanding anatomy, I've studied a lot before while reading comics, but never put it into practice.

Blender honestly has been pretty straightforward for me, but I think dripfeeding its features to myself over the course of a year (and also just being a quick learner with a few friends who use Blender) has helped make it a smooth process.

I hadn't heard of PureRef before, I usually just collect everything in a folder and slap it together on a photoshop file, but PureRef is probably more lightweight and better for this anyways.

I don't know if we have an art thread, but I'd love to see some of your muscle girl sculpts at some point!

 

[altcunningham]

Have you ever done life drawing?

That was my game changer a few years ago. Didn't have it in high school. When I went back to school in 2009 for art, I had one class.

When I went back for art in 2023, I pretended I knew nothing, just jettisoned everything I ever learned. And most of that program was life drawing. Then I was able to bring in everything I ever learned from Wizard How To Draw or stole from comic books and really put it together. The improvement even over the last 2 years for me was radical.

And that year so many of the youth I was with were just obsessed with anime and refused to do anything in a non-anime style, but if you don't know the foundations, you really don't know why anime is even working with what it exaggerates. And you really saw the kids that picked that up go through growth searches in art, while others stagnated.

The past year and a half that I went into design, I requested that I'd be allowed to do the after hour's life drawing sits, just for my health. And I have a bi-weekly one that I attend at a studio.

I owe everything I have going now to that year of fundamentals and coming in ready to reset. Helped that the Prof was our age and into comics, so he understood where I was coming from.

It was kind of funny every now and then. He would ask if people knew who Jim Lee was or J Scott Campbell or Frank frazetta and none of the kids did. And then I would raise my hand and explain. And the kids did not care because they didn't make chainsaw man.

I've also noticed when I try and match energy with my own anime interests they do not consider. Cowboy Bebop or Neon Genesis or Ghost in the Shell or any of 80-90s to be good, story or art. Ah, youth.

 

[docsilence]

I miss life drawing, I still use human reference poses when I need a specific weird comic book-y pose I can't parse out in my head. So many photos of myself looking stupid in a photo I took of myself for reference trying to do the Daredevil gargoyle pose...

 

[vicious]

Life drawing classes are wonderful if you can take them! It's a little stressful at the beginning but anyone who is there knows how hard it is to start out and nobody is there to judge anyone else.

 

[altcunningham]

I miss life drawing, I still use human reference poses when I need a specific weird comic book-y pose I can't parse out in my head. So many photos of myself looking stupid in a photo I took of myself for reference trying to do the Daredevil gargoyle pose...

That's what I do. Good enough for Sienkiewicz.

 

[altcunningham]

Life drawing classes are wonderful if you can take them! It's a little stressful at the beginning but anyone who is there knows how hard it is to start out and nobody is there to judge anyone else.

Those are the biggest art hurdles, I think.

Accepting that you're not as bad as you think.
Accepting compliments.
Learning no one looks at your work as intensely as you do, and that getting any feedback isn't personal, but opportunity.

 

[Damien]

My daughter (my oldest kid) turns 16 next week. Just saying that will make a guy feel very, very fucking old.

 

[SDcomics]

Ha! Wait until you have to start drinking metamucil everyday so you can poop.

 

[Damien]

Ha! Wait until you have to start drinking metamucil everyday so you can poop.

I'm learning in my old age that eating any heavy creams in the same day I eat other forms of lactose takes care of that for me.

 

[TheGillMan]

Have you ever done life drawing?

That was my game changer a few years ago. Didn't have it in high school. When I went back to school in 2009 for art, I had one class.

When I went back for art in 2023, I pretended I knew nothing, just jettisoned everything I ever learned. And most of that program was life drawing. Then I was able to bring in everything I ever learned from Wizard How To Draw or stole from comic books and really put it together. The improvement even over the last 2 years for me was radical.

And that year so many of the youth I was with were just obsessed with anime and refused to do anything in a non-anime style, but if you don't know the foundations, you really don't know why anime is even working with what it exaggerates. And you really saw the kids that picked that up go through growth searches in art, while others stagnated.

The past year and a half that I went into design, I requested that I'd be allowed to do the after hour's life drawing sits, just for my health. And I have a bi-weekly one that I attend at a studio.

I owe everything I have going now to that year of fundamentals and coming in ready to reset. Helped that the Prof was our age and into comics, so he understood where I was coming from.

It was kind of funny every now and then. He would ask if people knew who Jim Lee was or J Scott Campbell or Frank frazetta and none of the kids did. And then I would raise my hand and explain. And the kids did not care because they didn't make chainsaw man.

I've also noticed when I try and match energy with my own anime interests they do not consider. Cowboy Bebop or Neon Genesis or Ghost in the Shell or any of 80-90s to be good, story or art. Ah, youth.

I miss life drawing, I still use human reference poses when I need a specific weird comic book-y pose I can't parse out in my head. So many photos of myself looking stupid in a photo I took of myself for reference trying to do the Daredevil gargoyle pose...

This is exactly how I do it. Either that, or I take a picture of a figure with roughly the same build as I want to depict, photograph it, then try to copy it's pose as closely as possible.

Those are the biggest art hurdles, I think.

Accepting that you're not as bad as you think.
Accepting compliments.
Learning no one looks at your work as intensely as you do, and that getting any feedback isn't personal, but opportunity.

So much this. I hate 99% of my artwork, and rarely show it to anyone, but many tell me it is decent. I'm really trying to not be as hard on myself as I am.

My daughter (my oldest kid) turns 16 next week. Just saying that will make a guy feel very, very fucking old.

My daughter turned 28 this year, and my son will be 24 in January. I plan to go yell at some kids to get off my lawn tonight when I get off work.

 

[Damien]

My daughter turned 28 this year, and my son will be 24 in January. I plan to go yell at some kids to get off my lawn tonight when I get off work.

When you get off work? Speed-walking around the local mall before your mid-morning nap is not 'being at work,' sir.

 

[altcunningham]

When you get off work? Speed-walking around the local mall before your mid-morning nap is not 'being at work,' sir.

I know this is trying to be elder abuse but this is how I lived my twenties between shift work and action figure collecting.

 

[yojoebro82]

Not sure whether to put this here or in the books or movies thread: I don't get Wicked. I haven't really gotten into it yet. I saw the play with my wife and dozed off (to be fair, I've seen more than a couple of plays with my wife and have dozed off), I saw the first movie once at a friend's house but it wasn't really holding my attention.

I've only seen bits and pieces of the classic Wizard of Oz movie, never all the way through. That's on my to-do list.

I have, however, read the original Frank L Baum novel. Many times. Like 7 or 8 in the last year. Because my five year old loves it and wants it read to her again and again. Which is weird because she's a timid little thing (she gets scared when Darth Vader boards the rebel ship at the beginning of A New Hope) and the original novel has a bit of an edge to it which I like. And the art is great.

But yeah, Wicked, still not all on board with that one.

 

[altcunningham]

The Wicked novel is more in line with the Novels as far as tone. Although it reads very internet fanfic with animal sex clubs and weirdness. There are plot and character changes.

The musical is not really the novel as it has changed in tone and content, and the movies are for the musical.

Maybe try the book if you liked Baum.

I know most of this because I know someone where Wicked is their X-Men, so I have read the novel and attempted the film. Not my bag.

Something I hear from even devoted Wicked fans is that the second half of the musical isn't that great and drops the ball, and that's what this movie does. But it was "expected".