Snow C.A.T. Live!

After today’s disaster with the SDCC exclusives it’s clear the pulse website is held together with chewing gum and duct tape. I can’t image how many people haven’t ordered this because they ran into an issue. For a billion dollar company, they sure have a mom and pop system they’re still using that is nowhere near adequate. Clearly premium membership funds are not being spent on site upkeep. Guess they let a bunch of their tech folks go with that last round of layoffs. Never do that. The tech team is one the most vital teams in any modern company!
 
Safe money is still on this funding and hitting all the tiers, right? Is there any reason to think the typical pattern of backers won't apply and this thing shouldn't expect to get at least 5-6,000 backers in the final few days?
 
hmmberto said:
Safe money is still on this funding and hitting all the tiers, right? Is there any reason to think the typical pattern of backers won't apply and this thing shouldn't expect to get at least 5-6,000 backers in the final few days?
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Funding, absolutely. Unless something crazy happens I think that’s all but guaranteed 500 out from it funding. The tiers are less guaranteed at this point. All of them seem unlikely currently. This hasn’t tracked like previous Classified Haslabs so it’s hard to say if the last minute surge will be enough to hit 14K by the end.

If we fall short of all the tiers, the best thing Hasbro can do at this point is to let this play out and on the last day announce an extension because of the reported tech issues people have faced. The FoMo gets us most of the way there by then an then an extra week to pull people off the fence may get the last tiers unlocked. Extending because of tech issues allows them to save face and still make this a success. They probably couldn’t do that again a few days later on the gunship Haslab but they could do it here at least.
 
hmmberto said:
Safe money is still on this funding and hitting all the tiers, right? Is there any reason to think the typical pattern of backers won't apply and this thing shouldn't expect to get at least 5-6,000 backers in the final few days?
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Hard to say because this is such an unusual occurrence for a Classified Haslab. I know people think the Skystriker is a good example to compare this to, but that was a different beast due to the timing and nature of the funding period. The Skystriker had 2 other Haslabs competing with it at the same time and the Joe team increased the incentives with the Cobra Takeover addition. Also up until that point it was barely half way to funding.

The Cantina is maybe a bit closer to what we can expect. However there were some critical differences with the Cantina compared to the Snow C.A.T. First it was more expensive. Second it had 2 backing options, and third it was a different brand/not a vehicle. Of course there were other differences.

Anyway looking back on the Cantina funding it was only 85% backed with 6 days and 19 hours left in the funding period. The numbers were fairly similar to the Snow C.A.T. in that there were not too many great days until the final two weeks (after the initial rush). Then it finally picked up steam and the final day was almost 5,000 backers. It did miss the final tier, but that was a higher ask than the Snow C.A.T.'s final tier (17,000 vs 14,000).

So I would say that as of right now it looks promising for funding and unlocking all the tiers. Mostly because once a project is funded the FOMO kicks in and it will be real, not just a possibility. Which usually gets people off the fence and then it snowballs.
 
What’s interesting is that Haslabs that don’t fund during that first weekend seem to struggle until the last week. When they fund early, they seem to do a little better during the slow period of the campaign but usually clear the tiers long before the campaign ends rather than in the last few hours. The slower campaigns may or may not hit those tiers. Galactus took a long time to hit its really large funding goal and then quickly unlocked all the tiers. The cantina took a long time too and feel short of the final goal. So it’s pretty unpredictable. The sooner this hits funding the better the outcome.
 
Snow C.A.T.

7,614 / 8,000 (+94) 95.18% of funding goal with 12d 18h left.

Nice! Almost a triple digit daily gain, and over 7,600 backers. I don't know that the weekend will be anything special for the backer count, but at least this is gaining at a slightly better pace for now.
 
OK WHAT IN THE HIGH HOLY F$%# IS GOING ON HASBRO?

Just checked and the Snow C.A.T. is sitting at 7,548 backers down 66 backers from 3 hours ago!! Meanwhile the LAAT/i Gunship is up 7 backers from 3 hours ago.

Something is going on with the Snow C.A.T. numbers and it needs to be addressed. After a nice daily bump, the Snow C.A.T. now needs to get 66 backers just to get back to where it started 3 hours ago. That makes getting positive backer numbers, especially on a weekend, extremely difficult.

It is getting harder not to believe something fishy is going on......
 
Very weird. Maybe make a fuss on socials to try to get Hasbro to respond?
 
Damien said:
Very weird. Maybe make a fuss on socials to try to get Hasbro to respond?
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Outside of something fishy going on the only thing I can think of is that maybe international orders get updated in batches. If that was the case in theory international orders could help the numbers go up or down in chunks at certain times of the day. For example if there is a batch that gets updated every 6 hours then in theory if that group put in 250 orders and had 30 cancellations in a single day and the cancellations all hit in the same update then it could look like a fishy 30 loss when in fact it was a net gain of 220 over a 24 hour period. Or maybe with international orders the gains are real time but the losses are only put in once a day. After seeing how bad Pulse still is on handling regular sales on their website I can totally believe they have issues tracking sales.
 
superdoug55 said:
Outside of something fishy going on the only thing I can think of is that maybe international orders get updated in batches. If that was the case in theory international orders could help the numbers go up or down in chunks at certain times of the day. For example if there is a batch that gets updated every 6 hours then in theory if that group put in 250 orders and had 30 cancellations in a single day and the cancellations all hit in the same update then it could look like a fishy 30 loss when in fact it was a net gain of 220 over a 24 hour period. Or maybe with international orders the gains are real time but the losses are only put in once a day. After seeing how bad Pulse still is on handling regular sales on their website I can totally believe they have issues tracking sales.
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For sure. I said originally that the most likely culprit is some stupid website bullshit that's constantly being corrected for. But it's still problematic and it would be nice if Hasbro would at least acknowledge that it's happening. They know people track this stuff.
 
I don't know, I've seen posts on socials of people saying they don't think it's going to fund all tiers and canceling. Sure it's a little early but sometimes you just decide something and do it.
 
vicious said:
I don't know, I've seen posts on socials of people saying they don't think it's going to fund all tiers and canceling. Sure it's a little early but sometimes you just decide something and do it.
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I can see people doing that. Especially with everything that is dropping right now and SDCC exclusives, etc. Hasbro should have tried to have the HasLab during a quiet time for the old wallet. Granted there is only so much they can control but SDCC time can be an expensive time for collectors especially if they collect multiple lines.
 
Absolutely. I see comments, "everything from Hasbro is over $100!" for the SDCC stuff. Prices are high and maybe some people decided they'd rather have Cold Slither or whatever. Hasbro also didn't give us any further reason at SDCC to back the Snow CAT, aside from saying Iceberg is coming eventually.
 
superdoug55 said:
I can see people doing that. Especially with everything that is dropping right now and SDCC exclusives, etc. Hasbro should have tried to have the HasLab during a quiet time for the old wallet. Granted there is only so much they can control but SDCC time can be an expensive time for collectors especially if they collect multiple lines.
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But those same people seem likely to jump back in once it does fund (which it obviously will) and even more likely if the tiers are reached.
 
vicious said:
Absolutely. I see comments, "everything from Hasbro is over $100!" for the SDCC stuff. Prices are high and maybe some people decided they'd rather have Cold Slither or whatever. Hasbro also didn't give us any further reason at SDCC to back the Snow CAT, aside from saying Iceberg is coming eventually.
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I was pleasantly surprised that the Savage Land set was $90 - there's no Convention markup there, which was surprising for Hasbro.
 
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