Snow C.A.T. Live!

[PantherCult]

sorry man, not what online says.
Here's why it's considered a tank

All of this seems like a lot of reaching to justify why you dont want to buy one of the coolest vehicles in all of G,i, Joe. Who cares if its bigger than the HISS... neither vehicle is real - they are fictional vehicles for a fantasy military organization.

The only thing sillier than being mad at the relative size of the SnowCat vs the Hiss is being salty that the SnowCat driver is included with the SnowCat. It would have been a travesty to release the vehicle without its signature driver.

 

[canprime]

In my head, the Cobra stuff has always been smaller/kind of whacky (FANG copter, I'm looking at you) because they're a terrorist organization that doesn't have the production capabilities a militarized country might have. Sure, they probably have some deal going with a Third World country or two, but they gotta stretch that funding. That and transporting stuff on the down-low would require smaller more concealable equipment. Things like the Rattlers were stolen A-10s and Cobra had a limited supply.

In fact, I've always considered everything in limited supply as far as Cobra goes. It's a terrorist organization that wouldn't necessarily have more than a few hundred troops at a time, if that. They definitely wouldn't have battalions of Hiss tanks.

This is all in my head, mind you, not arguing anything one way or the other.

In more thread-specific news, after three days of trying to get my credit card to go through on Hasbro Pulse, I finally broke down and used PayPal tonight (basic stubbornness had kept me from doing it earlier. What kind of legit website can't take a credit card?)

Anyhow, I'm now an official backer.

"Nuh-uh I rememba the cartune and they had lots of.....stuff!" haha

See your points make a good bit of sense, and I would love to see a take on Cobra where they kind of flesh that out. Of course it doesn't happen for a number of reasons, but I wouldn't mind seeing it in the comics where they have more time/space to flesh out things like logistics.

Though we are talking about an organization that had whole islands to build giant battle headquarters, owned a whole town (or two) in the US hidden in plain sight, and of course the different crazy-ass looking members of the organization. So logistics be damned!!!

 

[canprime]

All of this seems like a lot of reaching to justify why you dont want to buy one of the coolest vehicles in all of G,i, Joe. Who cares if its bigger than the HISS... neither vehicle is real - they are fictional vehicles for a fantasy military organization.

The only thing sillier than being mad at the relative size of the SnowCat vs the Hiss is being salty that the SnowCat driver is included with the SnowCat. It would have been a travesty to release the vehicle without its signature driver.

I would also throw into the "silly" category the idea that because someone doesn't live where there is snow they won't back the Snow C.A.T.

Anyway, here we go:

Snow C.A.T.

6,351 / 8,000 (+110) 79.39% of funding goal with 40d 17h left.

Still chugging along, but I am not seeing much movement to imply a closing in on the funding goal anytime soon. At the current pace it may fund by next weekend, but it may not. I'm assuming there will be a bit more interest come SDCC.

 

[mrboshek]

Living in New England my whole life and I never took action figures outside in the snow.
Tauntauns, wampas, Snow Cats in the snow? No. WHALE in the pool? Yes.

 

[Damien]

Living in New England my whole life and I never took action figures outside in the snow.
Tauntauns, wampas, Snow Cats in the snow? No. WHALE in the pool? Yes.

I think people that didn't grow up in colder climates with lots of snow might underestimate that it's cold. Like.. really cold.

I took action figures outside in the snow many times in my childhood. Then regretted it and brought them back inside within 15 minutes. Because it's cold, and that makes it hard to actually manipulate action figures. Also, snow is a great way to lose accessories until spring.


I haven't backed this yet, but I still plan to. Logically, I understand that it doesn't charge until the end, but my brain is putting up a hard block on me ordering this until the money is there to order it with. Which means probably not until my next paycheck where I know there's enough to pay it off outright without affecting my finances at all. Again, not that it really matters because it won't charge right away. I don't know what's wrong with me.

 

[Ru1977]

Also, snow is a great way to lose accessories until spring

The one time I played with figures in the snow, that was the issue. It was great actually finding stuff after the snow melted, but after that it was white sheets on the floor in my room.

 

[NORM]

I used to play outside in my front yard in the garden and in a tree I used to climb. I remember bringing some Joes to a lake to play with also. But I didn’t take any into the snow. That was for full sized human playing. Snowmen, igloos, sledding. Then play with toys inside to warm up.

Strangely, I have no recollection of taking any other figures besides Joes outside to play with. No Star Wars, no MotU, no TFs. Those all stayed inside.

 

[docsilence]

Oh yeah, New England kid here. I played outside in the snow a LOT as a kid, but toys stayed inside because if you drop a storm trooper into a footprint, you're not seeing him til May.

 

[altcunningham]

I loved taking my Joes outside, but we had this cool multi tiered rocky garden that was perfect for confined wars where nothing would get lost.

But I also played with my toys more like Ernest Hemingway, where I would just bring out one or two Joes, a few villains.

Their vehicle would crash in action. One Joe would die. The other would be injured laying in the snow monologuing about the cold and pain and death and inevitability before he was hunted down and died or killed.

I also had a running plot where Flint was a washed up alcoholic just idly drinking by as Cobra took over a South American city and just lamented the cruelty and complicity of man.

 

[Damien]

I loved taking my Joes outside, but we had this cool multi tiered rocky garden that was perfect for confined wars where nothing would get lost.

But I also played with my toys more like Ernest Hemingway, where I would just bring out one or two Joes, a few villains.

Their vehicle would crash in action. One Joe would die. The other would be injured laying in the snow monologuing about the cold and pain and death and inevitability before he was hunted down and died or killed.

I also had a running plot where Flint was a washed up alcoholic just idly drinking by as Cobra took over a South American city and just lamented the cruelty and complicity of man.

..You okay?

Strangely, I have no recollection of taking any other figures besides Joes outside to play with. No Star Wars, no MotU, no TFs. Those all stayed inside.

For action figures, I can only recall ever having two lines as 'outside' toys; Joes and TMNT. But Joes were the major one. Oh, and Army Ants -- but I think I played with those twice, left them outside, and they slowly got buried, eaten, etc. I bet if you dig around in my old backyard, you could still find some toys out there from brands I didn't really care enough about to take care of.


In other news, reminder that the Snowcat is just a white half-track with troop transport and missile platform capabilities. It doesn't actually -have- to be a snow vehicle if you don't want it to be. After all, the TF version wasn't necessarily used by anyone that I ever knew as a snow vehicle. There's nothing intrinsic to the design that makes it only a snow vehicle, is what I'm saying. In a world where the Tigerforce color scheme exists, and military personnel can wear numbered sports tees or fluorescent joggers, it's probably okay for your cool half-track vehicle to be white. Even if it's not in the snow.

Alley Vipers (at least, the worst ones) wear blue and orange as their urban camo, after all.

Not ragging on anyone. Just want to see people enjoy the fantasy of things and not let their imaginations be constrained. That happens enough in your life outside the world of toy collecting. They're your toys. You decide what they are or aren't.

 

[NORM]

..You okay?




For action figures, I can only recall ever having two lines as 'outside' toys; Joes and TMNT. But Joes were the major one. Oh, and Army Ants -- but I think I played with those twice, left them outside, and they slowly got buried, eaten, etc. I bet if you dig around in my old backyard, you could still find some toys out there from brands I didn't really care enough about to take care of.


In other news, reminder that the Snowcat is just a white half-track with troop transport and missile platform capabilities. It doesn't actually -have- to be a snow vehicle if you don't want it to be. After all, the TF version wasn't necessarily used by anyone that I ever knew as a snow vehicle. There's nothing intrinsic to the design that makes it only a snow vehicle, is what I'm saying. In a world where the Tigerforce color scheme exists, and military personnel can wear numbered sports tees or fluorescent joggers, it's probably okay for your cool half-track vehicle to be white. Even if it's not in the snow.

Alley Vipers (at least, the worst ones) wear blue and orange as their urban camo, after all.

Not ragging on anyone. Just want to see people enjoy the fantasy of things and not let their imaginations be constrained. That happens enough in your life outside the world of toy collecting. They're your toys. You decide what they are or aren't.

I'm allowing myself to think that way. It's all terrain, not just snow terrain. White helps to camouflage it on the snow missions, but it could surely function like any vehicle in other climates. What I can't reconcile though is the torpedos on skis. Those ain't gonna work on most terrains. Could maybe work on desert sand? Or perhaps on water? If they had originally named it Bobcat or something, 8yo me would have been less prone to limiting it to arctic missions. But SNOWCAT really seems like the manufacturers had a plan for this thing. They dictated.

 

[Damien]

I'm allowing myself to think that way. It's all terrain, not just snow terrain. White helps to camouflage it on the snow missions, but it could surely function like any vehicle in other climates. What I can't reconcile though is the torpedos on skis. Those ain't gonna work on most terrains. Could maybe work on desert sand? Or perhaps on water? If they had originally named it Bobcat or something, 8yo me would have been less prone to limiting it to arctic missions. But SNOWCAT really seems like the manufacturers had a plan for this thing. They dictated.

Something I really like about this new one is precisely that you can take the skis (now snowboards) completely off and mount the missiles directly into the missile cabinets. So they did remove (or alter) the one element that made it snow-specific.

 

[altcunningham]

If I can flip some 1/6 Mondos (I'm out) in time, I'll grab a cat and pretend it has Metal Gear octo camo.

 

[superdoug55]

Oh yeah, New England kid here. I played outside in the snow a LOT as a kid, but toys stayed inside because if you drop a storm trooper into a footprint, you're not seeing him til May.

Florida kid here so instead of snow the joes had a lot of water missions in my friend’s pool. I didn’t actually own any vehicles for mine but he had a lot of them. He even had the aircraft carrier.

 

[NORM]

Something I really like about this new one is precisely that you can take the skis (now snowboards) completely off and mount the missiles directly into the missile cabinets. So they did remove (or alter) the one element that made it snow-specific.

Ooh I was not aware of that!