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[joshsquash729]

To be fair, NONE of the dinos in the first movie were "true" dinos either, since they explicitly state they had to combine the mosquito amber DNA with frog DNA to complete the strands.

I'd also argue that, while the D-Rex and Mutadons are the "featured baddies" that the movie is promoting, the Spinos, Mosasaurus, and Quetzal all get pretty good screen time too. I know all the dinos on this island are the "failed" ones- and yes, they're technically mutants/hybrids themselves, but I'd argue they're more true dinos than the Indominus or Indoraptor, so by those standards, Rebirth arguably has more "true" dinos than some of the other JW movies. As much as I love the Spino in JP3, that thing is much more of a one-off monstrosity than the Spinos in Rebirth, who are far more scientifically "accurate" (if such a thing exists in the Jurassic universe).

 

[TENIME]

I haven't seen the movie yet, but what I've seen from it, I really do NOT like how the Spinosaurs or Quetzal look vs III & Dominion, and that's a big thing for me, and why, while I'm all about accepting the reality of science, I don't want this franchise to deviate from the established designs of the creatures, not because "they were first" (because they weren't - I was a dinosaur kid before I was EVER a TMNT/Silverhawks/Batman/X-Men kid), but because they've been my favorite looks, accuracy be damned (learning new scientific findings has been more of a "noooo, I like how ILM thought they looked" as opposed to any real cognitive dissonance lol - science is fact, even as it evolves & we learn new information that contradicts the previous).

And yeah, after a movie with locusts as the main focus, I also definitely did not want "mutants" to be the focus, either (the day they enact that long-running awful idea of "human/dinosaur hybrids," I'm officially done). So then, with the mutants being the focus, them tweaking preexisting designs for what I opine are for the worse just disappoints me even further.

But yes, I'm still going to reserve my final judgment for after I've actually seen it, lol.

Man, for an accurate live-action big-screen adaptation of Dino-Riders...

It still bums me the fuck out that Mattel has the license, and isn't at least just giving us the Valorians & Rulons in Hammond scale with empty armor. No one's going to put the armor on any of the Hammond dinos, Universal, don't worry, your license is safe!!

 

[AceofKnaves]

Just saw the new film and adored it. Easily my favorite since the original. And I am soooo thankful to have ScarJo rather than doofus Pratt. I think this might have the best overall acting of any film in the franchise.
I totally dig the more paleontologically accurate dinos, and also I have a grudge against the JP3 Spino because they made the TRex totally job to that thing for unearned “street cred”. Also I loved the mutants, totally hope we at least get a Hammond Mutodon even if DRex is too big.

 

[altcunningham]

Just saw the new film and adored it. Easily my favorite since the original. And I am soooo thankful to have ScarJo rather than doofus Pratt. I think this might have the best overall acting of any film in the franchise.
I totally dig the more paleontologically accurate dinos, and also I have a grudge against the JP3 Spino because they made the TRex totally job to that thing for unearned “street cred”. Also I loved the mutants, totally hope we at least get a Hammond Mutodon even if DRex is too big.

I enjoyed how she played that character. That happy-sad was permeable. I don't see that often, usually they go hard on the sad part.

 

[joshsquash729]

Agreed on the characters- they weren't exactly the most fleshed out characters ever, but it was nice that they actually put effort into the humans again. Obviously most folks go to these movies for dinos first and foremost, but we still need to care about the characters. I've heard a handful of people say that the deaths in this one actually made them feel a little something for once, and I agree; I wasn't heartbroken or anything, but there was a pang of "Ah, dang", probably because they at least gave them some bare bones characterization, and they allowed the humans to grieve them too. When it's only the bad guys getting eaten, it loses the tension.

To be fair to the Spino, the JP3 T-Rex was smaller and younger than the Rexes of the last 2 movies. There's that fun(ish) headcanon that some fans have that it was the baby from TLW, but that's never been confirmed. And of course the series more or less got its revenge by making it a punching bag in Camp Cretaceous and having Rexy crash through a skeleton in JW. Then again, I'm a Spino defender 'til the end, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. Really do hope we see a Rebirth Spino in the HC soon. It seems we may done with HC for the year, but I hope they'll at least reveal a pipeline of what's to come next at either SDCC or NYCC

 

[AceofKnaves]

Ya gotta understand: Tyrannosaurus Rex, pre-JP even, is like non-Anakin Darth Vader to me: the most primal sacred of all the things. I think Tyrannosaurus Rex was my first “hero”. And I say that as someone who was born in ‘78 and already a dino book nerd by age 2.
Like when the Rex showed up in Rebirth, I fist-pumped. Just, fuck yeah, TRex, man. There’s not a greater giant monster out there, man. Just the best.

 

[Stoopid_Sandwich]

I was always more of a fan of Allosaurus. A true lion of the Jurassic. These animals were bringing down sauropods that were many times their weight class. Granted not very large ones but they were still in excess of 40-45 tons and a typical Allo is 3.5 tons depending on the species.


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[AceofKnaves]

I was always more of a fan of Allosaurus

Oh I’m a Bay Area boy, so I spent my childhood ogling the Allo skeleton in the Lawrence Hall of Science. I do love the Allosaurus, just . . . TRex, man. TRex.

 

[Stoopid_Sandwich]

Oh I’m a Bay Area boy, so I spent my childhood ogling the Allo skeleton in the Lawrence Hall of Science. I do love the Allosaurus, just . . . TRex, man. TRex.

We used to have an allosaurus skeleton at the field museum in Chicago decades ago but it’s gone now. Disappeared after a renovation for our dinosaur hall back in the 90’s. But that’s when we also got Sue as our main attraction and we moved the brachiosaurus to O’Hare airport. We have a Quetzalcoatlus and a Spinosaur cast there now and they are a sight to behold.


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[joshsquash729]

Oh, I was a T-Rex kid first, of course. And speaking of Sue, I'll never forget the coolest moment ever as a dino-loving kid. My grandparents invited our family out to Disney World in Florida (they were huge Disney nerds), and the whole time leading up to it, all I wanted to do was ride the Dinosaur ride based on the movie. Nothing else mattered on that trip. Well, long story short, the day came, and I was too short to ride. Needless to say, I about lost my mind with grief. My step grandma bravely volunteered to wait outside with me while the rest of the family went in to ride and I wept my eyes out, and I guess it was a "right place, right time" scenario, because one of the (I can't remember exactly, but I wanna say) head researchers or guys in charge of the preparation process for the parts that Disney got ahold of at Animal Kingdom was passing by and asked what was wrong. After the explanation, he invited me and my step-grandma back to the Fossil Preparation lab to see the bones on the other side of the glass. I of course had to put on some special gloves, but I got to touch the actual bones (while the guy held on to my hand with a death grip, for obvious reasons ). Don't remember which bones exactly- it wasn't the full skeleton- I know Disney only got parts of it and helped in the preparation before the casts were made. I was probably only back there for like 5 minutes and remember being speechless the whole time, but man, it turned my day around. I felt like the coolest kid on earth because I got to see Sue "first" (I don't think I really comprehended that probably thousands of people had seen her through glass at that point, but I digress).

 

[Stoopid_Sandwich]

Oh, I was a T-Rex kid first, of course. And speaking of Sue, I'll never forget the coolest moment ever as a dino-loving kid. My grandparents invited our family out to Disney World in Florida (they were huge Disney nerds), and the whole time leading up to it, all I wanted to do was ride the Dinosaur ride based on the movie. Nothing else mattered on that trip. Well, long story short, the day came, and I was too short to ride. Needless to say, I about lost my mind with grief. My step grandma bravely volunteered to wait outside with me while the rest of the family went in to ride and I wept my eyes out, and I guess it was a "right place, right time" scenario, because one of the (I can't remember exactly, but I wanna say) head researchers or guys in charge of the preparation process for the parts that Disney got ahold of at Animal Kingdom was passing by and asked what was wrong. After the explanation, he invited me and my step-grandma back to the Fossil Preparation lab to see the bones on the other side of the glass. I of course had to put on some special gloves, but I got to touch the actual bones (while the guy held on to my hand with a death grip, for obvious reasons ). Don't remember which bones exactly- it wasn't the full skeleton- I know Disney only got parts of it and helped in the preparation before the casts were made. I was probably only back there for like 5 minutes and remember being speechless the whole time, but man, it turned my day around. I felt like the coolest kid on earth because I got to see Sue "first" (I don't think I really comprehended that probably thousands of people had seen her through glass at that point, but I digress).

When did Disney get Sue? Are you sure you aren’t confusing this skeleton for a Carnotaurus since a pair of them were the main villains for Disney’s Dinosaurs? Because the from what I remember of these events regarding Sue is that after Sue Hendrickson and Pete and Neil Larson (the paleontologists and bone hunter who found the T-Rex) were subsequently arrested and put on trial since they dug up the bones while being falsely accused of doing so of having a permit to dig on private land. The skeleton would then be seized by the feds, sent to auction and then promptly purchased by the McDonalds corporation who shared a partnership with the Field Museum due to them providing funding for some kind of science grant from decades past.


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[joshsquash729]

When did Disney get Sue? Are you sure you aren’t confusing this skeleton for a Carnotaurus since a pair of them were the main villains for Disney’s Dinosaurs? Because the from what I remember of these events regarding Sue is that after Sue Hendrickson and Pete and Neil Larson (the paleontologists and bone hunter who found the T-Rex) were subsequently arrested and put on trial since they dug up the bones while being falsely accused of doing so of having a permit to dig on private land. The skeleton would then be seized by the feds, sent to auction and then promptly purchased by the McDonalds corporation who shared a partnership with the Field Museum due to them providing funding for some kind of science grant from decades past.

As far as I know, they never got the entirety of Sue herself, they just aided in the removal of the rock around the bones and preparation for the plaster casting, so probably a partial skeleton. The temporary fossil lab was there from 1998-early 2000 (we went some time in either late 99 or early 00; I remember they had all their new Millennium merch), and then, because they helped with the auction/prep, they got one of the casts, Dino-Sue, to then display in the park. I don't remember a whole whole lot of that day- I was either 5 or 6- and I'm sure my young mind is making some of what I do remember bigger than it actually was; I doubt I was the only kid they ever brought back there, being Disney and all, but I certainly felt like it that day. I do know that somewhere in one of our old family photo albums, we kept whatever brochure or flyer thing they were handing out about the prep- I'll have to see if I can find it when I'm back home in a few weeks.

Not sure if you'll be able to read it (I can't- something about article limits, so you may have to be a member?), but here's an article from the Orlando Sentinel back from 1999.

SCIENTISTS AT DISNEY RESTORE T. REX BONE BY REALLY BIG BONE

In a small laboratory, deep inside Walt Disney World’s Animal Kingdom, paleontologists are resurrecting the most vicious, meat-eating dinosaur ever known. Tyrannosaurus rex ranks among Earth&…

www.orlandosentinel.com

 

[Stoopid_Sandwich]

Unfortunately I can’t read the article there is a paywall. I have a book titled Tyrannosaurus Sue by Steve Fiffer who was a reporter for the Chicago Tribune and a documentarian for the entire account of Sue’s journey from South Dakota all the way to her final resting place at the field museum so I’ll re read that book and brush up on my factoids about her.


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[TENIME]

Yeah, as a Chicagoan, I really hope Sue is still here...

Also, @nik is a god among insects.

The collection is complete (up to date, at least, lol - I'll keep collecting as they keep releasing)!!!!!!

 

[joshsquash729]

Yeah, as a Chicagoan, I really hope Sue is still here...

Also, @nik is a god among insects.

The collection is complete (up to date, at least, lol - I'll keep collecting as they keep releasing)!!!!!!

Love seeing all the dinos together! How's the Scutosaurus? I've been sticking to mostly movie-only dinos (though I broke my rule with Irritator, just because of how much I love Spino-like dinos), but there's something about the Scuto that I just really like; can't quite put my finger on it.