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PantherCult said:
Yeah... the idea that 'his primary color for Benom is blue in the comics' is silly. It is very obviously a blue suit with the blue used to allow for shading and detail to be depicted so that every drawing isnt just a giant black glob. Comic Venom is never actually in-world in a blue suit.

Its the same reason Black Panther looks blue alot even though his suit is not and has never been blue in universe.

That said, I dig this big blue symbiote and for me he's going to be a whole different symbiote... maybe Ruin... I don't know I'll figure out a name . I was going to say Raze and then found out there was already a symbiote that used that name, so...
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I’m not arguing that Venom’s suit in-universe isn’t a black costume because it’s depicted as blue on the page and I think you’re missing my point. The argument I was trying to make is that because we now have a blue venom figure, for anyone who decides to hold onto it now has that justification for cementing it into their late 90’s comic display because this is how Venom looked in comics at the time. So for anyone who has an action figure set up that features a lot of characters from the Spider-Man clone saga, X-Men characters from the Joe Mad era, late 90’s Avengers from the Busiek era… this blue venom can placed in that corner of your display rather than a typical venom figure that is flat black.


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Don't want to inflame the back and forth at all, but just wanted to add that because I've got several black Venoms I really like, and I even have that cell-shaded black Venom with red and blue highlights, I'm actually MORE interested in the Gamerverse one because he's bright blue. Definitely don't expect that to be an opinion anyone agrees with, but any time something helps me do something new with the collection I'm more intrigued. I'd be less interested in another pure black Venom. But I'm also not a huge Venom fan. I'm really getting the set because I like how the no-scales Cap figure contrasts with my existing favorite cap with the molded scales on his suit.
 
Venom’s blue suit can hang with Superman’s blue hair and Batman’s blue cape and cowl, because they are all perceived as blue for the same reason.
Although I guess at this point a couple of Batman’s costumes are canonically blue, although they really shouldn’t be.
But c’est la vie, it’s comics.
 
docsilence said:
Don't want to inflame the back and forth at all, but just wanted to add that because I've got several black Venoms I really like, and I even have that cell-shaded black Venom with red and blue highlights, I'm actually MORE interested in the Gamerverse one because he's bright blue. Definitely don't expect that to be an opinion anyone agrees with, but any time something helps me do something new with the collection I'm more intrigued. I'd be less interested in another pure black Venom. But I'm also not a huge Venom fan. I'm really getting the set because I like how the no-scales Cap figure contrasts with my existing favorite cap with the molded scales on his suit.
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I'm not even a huge Venom fan, but I also dig the blue look. This one will be hanging out on my Spider-Man shelf for a while.
 
Stoopid_Sandwich said:
The argument I was trying to make is that because we now have a blue venom figure, for anyone who decides to hold onto it now has that justification for cementing it into their late 90’s comic display because this is how Venom looked in comics at the time.
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I don't think anybody should justify what they put in their own displays. The only justification anyone needs is "because I wanted to". Venom comics is typically understood to be one color, in game he's typically another. There's no real debate to be had. You prefer one on your shelf over another? Great. Happy for ya.
 
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So obviously the blue/black thing has been a bugaboo in comics for a long time because of the coloring process and the way the images looked on that old paper stock.

Batman, as you say wasn't meant to he blue. Spider-Man, too.

There are some cases where its slightly more obvious (Black Panther) that the costume is supposed to he black despite the heavy use of blue on the comic page.

And then we have the characters that were supposed to be black, but ultimately were canonically blue because everyone accepted the 'shading/light highlights' as the base color... characters like Beast with his fur and Nightcrawler were supposed to have black fur...but no one accepted it because of how the art was rendered and here we are.

Heck, early on one of Kurt's powers was to fade into shadows because of his black fur... but he started being identified as a fuzzy blue elf and there was no going back.
 
As far as Batman’s costume is concerned, I go by the Jose Louis Garcia -Lopez style guide from 1982. There is a Pantone color swatch legend and all the various heroes have specific color palates for their costume and Batman’s is marked as blue

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PantherCult said:
Heck, early on one of Kurt's powers was to fade into shadows because of his black fur... but he started being identified as a fuzzy blue elf and there was no going back.
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I'll have to double check to be sure, but I've just been reading through the run post Giant Sized and I think the "blue" came in pretty early actually, possibly prior to the revelation about his shadow ability. I think that one was perhaps always intended.
 
Stoopid_Sandwich said:
As far as Batman’s costume is concerned, I go by the Jose Louis Garcia -Lopez style guide from 1982. There is a Pantone color swatch legend and all the various heroes have specific color palates for their costume and Batman’s is marked as blue

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This just made me nerd out so much and go looking for if someone has recreated the swatches for Procreate.
 
Stoopid_Sandwich said:
As far as Batman’s costume is concerned, I go by the Jose Louis Garcia -Lopez style guide from 1982. There is a Pantone color swatch legend and all the various heroes have specific color palates for their costume and Batman’s is marked as blue

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Ehhh, you have to be careful there. The pantone stuff is for printing clarity/continuity. By then it was common enough for folks to view Batman as blue (if for no other reason than the Adam West show), but you can't take a print guide like this as the definition of what the color would be in-world.

Either way, a blue Batman is also at this point a standard variation on his suit.
 
Stoopid_Sandwich said:
the Jose Louis Garcia -Lopez style guide from 1982.
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Yeah, I will accept, though not particularly enjoy, that that era’s costume was blue by default.
Blue does make for a nice action figure, though. Sometimes more colorful is more fun. Just seems odd for “creature of the night” Batman, especially, although I do prefer Spider-man in black instead of blue as well.
 
Stoopid_Sandwich said:
As far as Batman’s costume is concerned, I go by the Jose Louis Garcia -Lopez style guide from 1982. There is a Pantone color swatch legend and all the various heroes have specific color palates for their costume and Batman’s is marked as blue
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Yeah... but this is decades after the character came out and he wa swidely accepted as blue by then. Heck the Adam West TV show had made the costume blue already by that point. Its clear in his first appearance the costume is black... but by the mid 1940's the colorists were just doing it mostly blue... the battle had long been over by the 1970s
 
JakeEkiss said:
I'll have to double check to be sure, but I've just been reading through the run post Giant Sized and I think the "blue" came in pretty early actually, possibly prior to the revelation about his shadow ability. I think that one was perhaps always intended.
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No you are right... it happened quick but there are interviews with Cockrum that allude to the fact that the character was supposed to be covered in black fur.
 
Heh. It’s one of my reservations about Lee’s Hush design: it’s arguable the best Batsuit ever, but he REALLY insisted on blue which really kills it, especially the pouch belt/big-black-bat logo design.
 
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