Marvel Cinematic Universe Movies and Streaming Series Discussion

X-Men really does work best episodic. They have the power to structure that franchise any way they want and I wish they wanted to do it like that - an episode per major character, then culminate with a film. Then S2 keep it going, introduce characters carefully and then culminate with a film. Maybe start the whole thing with the traditional five in a film, but then expand with a limited series after. Build the villains, too, so they aren't one and done and wasted.

Kinda like how Mando is going to go - except more carefully planned and not as a weird Hail Mary, help us pay for Star Wars! film.
 
Thing is; they cant use single shows on TV to set up essential info for later theatrical films. It has to supplement the films but not be essential. Casuals won't keep pace with it, and without the casuals you don't have super success.
 
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PanchaMaestro said:
Thing is; the cant use single shows on TV to set up essential info for later theatrical films. It has to supplement the films but not be essential. Casuals won't keep pace with it, and without the casuals you don't have super success.
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Yeah I'd be fine with that. I feel all movies and series should be able to stand on their own. A movie that follows my idea would just "introduce" these characters to a larger audience, but the story still needs to stand on its own. Maybe not ever marvel movie has done that, but I firmly believe that's how they should be handled. And I don't mean New X-Men should devote a ton of screentime to each character and who they are, but I really liked how Civil War introduced Spiderman. We get it, now action. No need to take a sidetrack into the spider bite, Uncle Ben, etc.
 
Ru1977 said:
Yeah I'd be fine with that. I feel all movies and series should be able to stand on their own. A movie that follows my idea would just "introduce" these characters to a larger audience, but the story still needs to stand on its own. Maybe not ever marvel movie has done that, but I firmly believe that's how they should be handled. And I don't mean New X-Men should devote a ton of screentime to each character and who they are, but I really liked how Civil War introduced Spiderman. We get it, now action. No need to take a sidetrack into the spider bite, Uncle Ben, etc.
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Agreed. X-Men is the unique property that benefits from not having to go in-depth on backstory on how they got their powers- all you need to know is that they were born with them. Boom, done. At this point, it feels like Wolverine's backstory has been done almost as often as Batman's on-screen; sure, his is a bit more involved than the other X-Men's, but I don't think I needed it covered nearly as often as it was. Like you said, there was something really nice about how Civil War introduced us to Spidey, and I'd argue that The Batman was similar- show us an already established but still early-days version of the hero; make allusions if you have to, but skip the well-established origins. At this point we know their backstories better than we know some people in our own lives.
 
Y'know the funny thing about Wolverine's backstory - I wish we'd been able to bring him to screen back when nobody knew a goddamned thing about him. He could've been a mystery hero where all his backstory was speculation for decades. Then again I'm also one of those dorks who wishes we got to see young Bob Hoskins play Logan and will probably never be fully satisfied by what they do with him on screen.
 
docsilence said:
Bernthal in a scene with Holland feels like a Xenomorph in a Care Bears movie. (I love both performances as their respective characters, but it's just such dichotomy of vibes.)
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It's interesting. Holland, Bernthal and Zendaya are all filming Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey in Iceland right now.

I bet there's Marvel talk between takes.
 
Schizm said:
Oh man. There goes the lighthearted Spidey romp I was hoping we'd get.
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With New York under martial law? With Aunt May dead? With Peter's girlfriend and best friend forgetting about his existence?

I'm not sure a lighthearted romp was ever in the cards.
 
All jokes about thematic dissonance aside, some of my favorite comics moments are Peter freaking out while trying to convince Frank he does not have to kill everyone and being a pain in Frank's ass getting in the way of Frank killing everyone. It could be legitimately funny to see them on scene together.

(Also though, something I don't know if we'll ever see in the MCU: the deep seated belief Matty has that Peter is the best of them and that he'll never be as good a person as Parker is. I love the idea that every psychologically broken superhero in Marvel Comics looks at Spidey and says yeah, let's be honest, we should all aspire to be that kid. He's a good man.)
 
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