Thor-El
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This is an exact translation to 1:12 scale (according to my own math). Seeing the figures in it, honestly I feel like it needs to be bigger than 1:12 to work.
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I hear that, and I think that my issue with Robbie’s pop culture trend trappings is that unlike the 70s trend-running characters I love, I was actually alive and literate when the “Ghost Driver” debuted. It’s the difference between “oh I see, this character was originally created to follow a then-popular trend back in the day, how interesting” vs “ahhhh jeez, this *new* character just popped up and is clearly based on a thing that is being pushed in pop culture *right now*”. I wonder if I would be so keen on the original Ghost Rider if I actually lived through all the Evel Knievel stuff in real time. I *did* live through the 90s Ghost Rider resurgence with enough media literacy to know what was going on there, and while I did dig on Danny a bit I was, even as a teenager, annoyed that they’d replaced the original character and were trying to chase current pop culture trends with Danny.
. . . also I admit that the particular trend involved with Robbie’s visuals is not a trend I’m charmed by. My stomach totally dropped when I saw the new Ghost Rider was 1) not Johnny and 2) obviously riffing on a movie series and general “attitude” that gives me big yuck. I do know that Robbie is actually interesting as a character and the F&F stuff is largely visual trappings, but still: ick.
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This made me have to double check whether my original Joe Fixit survived the great purge of '25. He did not.
My intense need for a new modern She-Hulk and Black Cat are entirely selfish. I sold my modern She-Hulk without a replacement for the modern costume (one of my few pseudo regrets) - but that figure was so bad, I don't think I'd use it for anything now. It desperately needs an update. I also sold my extra carded Black Cat, and it's a figure I feel like is just enough of a pain in the ass if I had to replace that I'm hesitant to pose it for anything substantial. Felicia is a no brainer with all of the new female body stuff they've developed. And Spider-Woman
Also - having messed with my blue and black/dark blue Walgreens F4 for a recent photo - I think it's time Hasbro takes the Future Foundation bodies and repurposes them for those costumes immediately. Sue also deserves double elbows in that look.
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I think you're tricking yourself with the figures having their legs straight out. In a 3d model, they'd be sitting in chairs. Which would allow you to tighten everything up. So, I think your size there is pretty bang on.
Just an FYI: The original Ghost Rider first appeared in 1950 for a company called Magazine Enterprises. He was created by writer Roy Krank and artist Dick Ayers.
The series lasted for about a year and was then cancelled. In 1967 the trademark to the character's name lapsed and Marvel debuted their own Ghost Rider. It was plotted by original Ghost Rider artist Dick Ayers and written by Gary Friedrich and Roy Thomas. They were inspired by the novel The Legend of Sleepy Hollow and the song Ghost Riders in the Sky.
To me, one of the greatest strengths of comics is reworking a great concept for more modern times.
The series lasted for about a year and was then cancelled. In 1967 the trademark to the character's name lapsed and Marvel debuted their own Ghost Rider. It was plotted by original Ghost Rider artist Dick Ayers and written by Gary Friedrich and Roy Thomas. They were inspired by the novel The Legend of Sleepy Hollow and the song Ghost Riders in the Sky.
To me, one of the greatest strengths of comics is reworking a great concept for more modern times.
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Yes. I think the Avengers would be sitting in seats not kayak style. No reason the other row of three seats behind them wouldn’t extend past the window part of the canopy.
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Hehe very true. I meant “original” in the sense of the first iteration of the flaming-skull “rider” Marvel character.
And also one if its greatest weaknesses, depending on the rework.
My biggest issue with it is that I get attached to *characters*, not concepts. It really really REALLY bums me out when they dump a whole character and replace said character with a whole other character with the same costume/name and call it good. Sometimes it works out in the long run, I guess, but I’m always more interested in the “who” than the “what”. And when the replacement comes with the trappings of an annoying current trend? Oof. Not my jam. Maybe nostalgia will have me circling back and having an appreciative chuckle a couple decades later and maybe even enjoying the camp of it all (the 90s are largely like that for me now), but that usually goes hand-in-hand with some gentle in-universe ribbing of the silliness of the flash-in-the-pan concept. Much as I despise F&F-adjacent stuff, Robbie might become some fun and goofy nostalgia for me in, like, maybe 15 more years.
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To be fair... that hasn't really happened in this case. Robbie didn't replace anyone. In fact, by the time Robbie came around, both Johnny -and- Danny were variously still doing the GR thing.
Something I really appreciated as a kid that really started reading comics in the '90s and for whom Dan was THE Ghost Rider, was that John was still around. His story was still relevant. They were able to explain the new character by expanding the mythology rather than by going 'it's this guy now.' And Dan was a better character for having John still there as a mentor as well as clearly setting up for an eventual return to his own supernatural powers.
That being said, I'm consistently disappointed by GR stories because I don't think Marvel ever really knows what to do with this family of characters.
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Totally. With Robbie, my annoyance is that his F&F visual vibe makes me want to scream in fury, and also I was worried for a bit that he’d be the live-action version in the MCU and NO NO NO.
Agreed, but that all just made me hungry for more stories with Johnny *as* Ghost Rider. I remember getting the classic Ghost Rider figure in a later wave of the 90s action figure line and being all “FUCK YES THE REAL GHOST RIDER AT LAST!!” And like definitely I had never read a 70s Ghost Rider comic when I started picking up the various Midnight Sons books, but yeah my reaction was totally “wait, this kid isn’t the original, the other guy is? Fuck, why aren’t we reading a book with him as Ghost Rider then, that sounds way cooler and he’s clearly a cooler guy than this kid with the magic bike”. And also I was like “Midnight Sons = OG Morbius, OG Doctor Strange, OG Blade and . . . Ghost Rider’s little brother?” I admit: I was not the typical tween/teen, but yeah it felt like a bummer to read about Ghost Rider Junior when the real one was sitting on a bike right next to him.
It's a great figure. Probably the best Magneto Hasbro's done? I'm unbothered by the toony headsculpts, though your mileage may vary.
At the risk of inciting PantherCult, she made my top 10 this year, and Elektra is likely to join her next year. They're such easy wins on the new bodies. Personally, I'd like to get them both on the Gamerverse Psylocke body.
While you're unequivocally correct and I'm not a car guy, keep the Nissan Skyline's name out of your fucking mouth.
I somehow never connected Robbie to Dom's 1970 Dodge Charger R/T.
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Technically, he was. He was in Agents of SHIELD.
I think I almost viscerally had the opposite reaction. Maybe it was growing up near an old comic shop but I just do not give a single fuck what the 'original' of anything is/was. Don't care who did it first. Or how it was originally intended. About basically anything. I care about whether I like what they're currently doing.
I'm sure that stems from hearing about how Wolverine's costume is bad because 'that's not how it was originally drawn' or how the X-Men were better when it was Jean, Cyke, Beast, Angel, and Iceman. Or yeah, even hearing about how GR was better when it was Johnny's head on fire. Even, actually, Thor. I really like a lot of the oldest Thor stuff now. But man... just trying to enjoy Thor around 1993 when there was the Thor Corps and shit like that and having to hear guys 20 years older than me bitching and complaining like little babies because it wasn't the version they grew up with. I just become so deeply resistant to the idea of even caring a little about how a character, team, or concept started. Or what was considered the 'best' version.
It really only matters what my favorite version is, and that decision has zero roots in the origin of the character/concept.
Thor-El
Asgardian
Considering that the vertical space within the crew cabin would be 6.8 inches (at least) with a horizontal space of a little over 10 you may be right.