G.I. Joe Classified Series: The Chatty Pointless Thread & Performance Art

[Damien]

End lefty persecution!

(I choose to look at it like why every film set I ever worked on was 50% lefty instead of 90/10%, right-brain/left-handed people tend to congregate in certain spaces and careers, frequently those in which you are counterculture/anti-establishment so of course 50% of the fucking weirdos the Joes recruit would be lefties).

The problem I have is that it can be very hard to learn certain skills left-handed. I know lefties that shoot right-handed, in part because they were taught by righties (literally and figuratively sometimes) and in part because a lot of guns are actually not ambidextrous in design and people don't like hot casings flying across their field of vision and hitting them in the arm.

 

[Spongyblue]

Nothing says good morning like having hot brass pop you in the kisser.

 

[AceofKnaves]

In the case of Snake-Eyes, specifically, he really needs to be ambidextrous, with the ability to pronate a blade with either hand, articulation-wise.

 

[Damien]

In the case of Snake-Eyes, specifically, he really needs to be ambidextrous, with the ability to pronate a blade with either hand, articulation-wise.

Honestly.. every figure should have vertical wrist hinges for gripping hands. Period. Horizontal hinges should be relegated to fist and expression hands.
The bigger problem is where they put things on the figure itself. Budo, for example, is left-handed by DESIGN more than by articulation. His articulation is actually right-handed, hilariously.

 

[altcunningham]

The problem I have is that it can be very hard to learn certain skills left-handed. I know lefties that shoot right-handed, in part because they were taught by righties (literally and figuratively sometimes) and in part because a lot of guns are actually not ambidextrous in design and people don't like hot casings flying across their field of vision and hitting them in the arm.

It's fun having them eject across your face.

When I picked up guitar my buddy told me to go rightie so I'd have more choices when I bought one, but I wanted to be cool like the other lefties. Do regret that one sometimes.

 

[Damien]

It's fun having them eject across your face.

When I picked up guitar my buddy told me to go rightie so I'd have more choices when I bought one, but I wanted to be cool like the other lefties. Do regret that one sometimes.

Yeah, my daughter was learning to play right-handed partly because the options were may more limited for left-handed guitars unless we wanted to spend more and wait longer for something special order.

 

[NORM]

I teach high school ceramics/potter’s wheel. Counter clockwise is how righties are taught, but I do my best to learn how to throw lefty/clockwise because I want those kids to get the most out of the class too. Fortunately, I only learned how to use the potter’s wheel properly around 10-11 years ago when I was first assigned to teach ceramics. At the time, I was just staying a step or two ahead of my students while I took a night class. But since this is a skill that’s relatively fresh for me, adjusting for ambidexterity is easier than relearning how to draw with my left hand. I’ve drawn righty for 45 years. No way could be as proficient with my other hand.

 

[altcunningham]

Sometimes I see wild lefty things..

On a video game forum there was a huge thread based on the concept of being unable to play consoles because the controller layout is favourited towards right hands (lefties can't use a dpad the same as righties),.and some people claimed using public computers are impossible because keyboard left, mouse right.

I dunno. I had to drive stick, forklift, shoot, salute... There's just a shitload of stuff in the world that is set up to do with your right hand and you can't account for it.

So I just find it weird to claim that you can't do certain things but I guess I'll just never know that world.

 

[docsilence]

The problem I have is that it can be very hard to learn certain skills left-handed. I know lefties that shoot right-handed, in part because they were taught by righties (literally and figuratively sometimes) and in part because a lot of guns are actually not ambidextrous in design and people don't like hot casings flying across their field of vision and hitting them in the arm.

Preaching to the choir. When I had to learn to shoot for a role in a spy movie the instructor actually had experience teaching lefties and was thrilled to have someone he could practice teaching some of the things that are built anti-lefty, like magazine release.

Meanwhile, I still tie my shoelaces in a way that makes the fucking hoops go vertical instead of side to side because of how I was taught by two right-handed parents.

But also I legitimately don't care about realism in my toys. Never not in a million years am I going to think about how a casing will pop out of Duke's gun. (Though stuff like McFarlane making Green Arrow's eyes point only in one direction bugs me, or I'll keep Sci-Fi righty because he can't read the digital screen on his laser rifle if he's holding it left-handed cos it faces out). I'm going to pose most characters lefty anyway. I do appreciate when someone pays attention with stuff like how Legends knew Renner's lefty so the movie Hawkeye figures were set up the screen accurate way. (IIRC the comics versons are righty.)

Maybe also after a lifetime of every action figure, every miniature, every device, and every interaction with the world being set up for right-handed people I think it's hilarious ONE toy line accidentally made everything backward. The fact that it wasn't on purpose is endlessly funny to me. It wouldn't nearly be as funny if it were like, the Hulk or Batman.

(Sidebar, I only TODAY learned that my favorite Marvel character is canonically lefty and that's why Daredevil's batons are on his left thigh, even though Charlie Cox is righty.)

 

[docsilence]

Sometimes I see wild lefty things..

On a video game forum there was a huge thread based on the concept of being unable to play consoles because the controller layout is favourited towards right hands (lefties can't use a dpad the same as righties),.and some people claimed using public computers are impossible because keyboard left, mouse right.

I dunno. I had to drive stick, forklift, shoot, salute... There's just a shitload of stuff in the world that is set up to do with your right hand and you can't account for it.

So I just find it weird to claim that you can't do certain things but I guess I'll just never know that world.

It's funny, I've never set up my computer lefty. I use the mouse with my right hand even though there's a million do-dads that let you swap. Never even occurred to me video game controllers are inherently handed til you mentioned it. But I hate that every video game character with a rifle is right-handed without an option to flip, even though I know that's a STUPID amount of work to add to a game for no reason at all.

But I also know a father and son with lifelong stutters because their nun teachers forced them to learn everything right-handed, so there's something to be said about accommodating folks who need it.

 

[Ru1977]

Yeah, my daughter was learning to play right-handed partly because the options were may more limited for left-handed guitars unless we wanted to spend more and wait longer for something special order.

You could do like Hendrix and just set up the bridge for left-handed on a right-handed guitar and swap out the nut then string it the opposite way. Then there is Doyle Bramhall Jr who played a right handed guitar upside down, so all his chords are just upside down as well. (So the thickest string is on the bottom, thinnest on top).

 

[altcunningham]

It's funny, I've never set up my computer lefty. I use the mouse with my right hand even though there's a million do-dads that let you swap. Never even occurred to me video game controllers are inherently handed til you mentioned it. But I hate that every video game character with a rifle is right-handed without an option to flip, even though I know that's a STUPID amount of work to add to a game for no reason at all.

But I also know a father and son with lifelong stutters because their nun teachers forced them to learn everything right-handed, so there's something to be said about accommodating folks who need it.

I think the only games that let me flip were counterstrike and Half Life. It is annoying.

Otherwise... I dunno. Dpad is for that hand. Buttons are for the other. You can even swap sticks for 25+ years now, so that's accounted for. I've never met a lefty outside of that thread who claimed gaming and driving were undoable because of the standard.

The ruler thing is just evil.

 

[altcunningham]

Meanwhile, I still tie my shoelaces in a way that makes the fucking hoops go vertical instead of side to side because of how I was taught by two right-handed parents.

Wtf is that why my laces angle out

 

[docsilence]

Yeah, I literally have never, in 48 years, even CONSIDERED the handedness of controllers. that's very weird. Though I've got a very nit-picky thing about wanting the camera lens on the left if I turn my phone to horizontal, but I think that might must me being weird.

So I just find it weird to claim that you can't do certain things but I guess I'll just never know that world.

I barely notice it but my partner notices me NOT noticing it. Like I'll be struggling with some nuisance and she'll be like "that's because it's backwards for you, dummy, you can't see the dial" or whatever.

Wtf is that why my laces angle out

Lefties and shoelaces, man. It's an eternal struggle. To this DAY my laces look like an alien tied them.

 

[Damien]

Sometimes I see wild lefty things..

On a video game forum there was a huge thread based on the concept of being unable to play consoles because the controller layout is favourited towards right hands (lefties can't use a dpad the same as righties),.and some people claimed using public computers are impossible because keyboard left, mouse right.

I dunno. I had to drive stick, forklift, shoot, salute... There's just a shitload of stuff in the world that is set up to do with your right hand and you can't account for it.

So I just find it weird to claim that you can't do certain things but I guess I'll just never know that world.

This is just big bitch behaviour kind of shit. 'The world isn't specifically accommodating me' is an exhausting take. I've never had a problem playing video games or even using computers. It's not like these people just showed up on Earth today from some far-flung extraterrestrial society where everything is left-handed and now they can't do anything. They grew up in this world where computers are set up a certain way and controllers are laid out a certain way. You've ALWAYS had to use it like this. If your brain hasn't adapted to using a fucking Playstation controller then I just have no sympathy for you because obviously this is a situation Darwinism should have taken care of.

But also I legitimately don't care about realism in my toys. Never not in a million years am I going to think about how a casing will pop out of Duke's gun. (Though stuff like McFarlane making Green Arrow's eyes point only in one direction bugs me, or I'll keep Sci-Fi righty because he can't read the digital screen on his laser rifle if he's holding it left-handed cos it faces out). I'm going to pose most characters lefty anyway. I do appreciate when someone pays attention with stuff like how Legends knew Renner's lefty so the movie Hawkeye figures were set up the screen accurate way. (IIRC the comics versons are righty.)

I do think about stuff like this sometimes, because that's how my brain works.
But it's a selfish thing, too. I just like right-handedness aesthetically. It makes sense to me because we're talking about activities that -I- do right-handed, despite BEING left-handed. Because of being forced to do both my entire life, I think I've mentioned this before, I actually have some weird lefty-righty issues where I do X with my left, but Y with my right.

But I also know a father and son with lifelong stutters because their nun teachers forced them to learn everything right-handed, so there's something to be said about accommodating folks who need it.

Oh yeah, I bet if it were a magical world where we could diagnose every condition and tick a human being has and trace them to specific causes, at least some of my issues go back to being forced to learn to do a lot of things right-handed.

You could do like Hendrix and just set up the bridge for left-handed on a right-handed guitar and swap out the nut then string it the opposite way. Then there is Doyle Bramhall Jr who played a right handed guitar upside down, so all his chords are just upside down as well. (So the thickest string is on the bottom, thinnest on top).

That sounds like way more effort than I was ever going to put into my daughter's newest fad interest (which she has already quit after about a year of doing it, mind).

Lefties and shoelaces, man. It's an eternal struggle. To this DAY my laces look like an alien tied them.

My work boots have a side-zipper and are still factory-laced. Hahaha.