Marvel Cinematic Universe Movies and Streaming Series Discussion

I want to watch THAT movie! It's like if the whole movie was the Avengers going on vacation after schwarma. I would love that. Wyatt Russell is having so much fun!
 
After a week without Disney Plus, I finally caught up on Daredevil! Then of course the finale came out a few hours after I went to bed, but soon....
 
I'm really looking forward to the Thunderbolts. I miss pre-pandemic movie life, though - a gang of us used to hit up every single Marvel or Star Wars movie together on every opening weekend and then get dinner and talk about it, but the enthusiasm to get together in person has waned. About half of us actually got together to see Brave New World, so I'm gonna suggest we try to get back on track and see this one, too.
 
I haven't done that since high school, and even before the pandemic, my enjoyment of the movie theater was waning. I always went Sunday mornings on my own or with which kid was into that movie. I got an early start on old manness. But I am really excited for this one. Eh... Still Sunday morning though. Heh.

I can't remember the last one I saw before BNW though. Oh, D&W. I keep thinking I've slowed on watching marvel movies but I haven't. I may be on the internet too much and think they suck more than I really think they do.
 
I can't remember what order they all came out in, but I know we didn't go as a group to Black Widow, Shang-Chi, GOTG3, the Marvels, or Quantumania. We did go see the third Spidey film in theaters, and my partner and I went to the Eternals but I'm one of those weird Eternals defenders. Of those, I still haven't watched GOTG3 because I don't enjoy seeing animals suffer so I've been avoiding it. I wish we saw Shang-Chi in a theater.
 
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As a fellow Eternals defender, there are dozens of us.
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Eternals is one of those hills I'll die on. But I'm also a sucker for a deconstructionist view of superheroes and what they do with the power they wield. It definitely wasn't for everyone, but it was absolutely for me.
 
I thought Eternals was firmly in the middle of the MCU movies. I enjoyed it. The end fight certainly better than most and had a different energy to it and exploited some ideas their films generally don’t.

I mean it’s the Eternals. Just like the comic it was never going to have massive legs. They are always more spectacle than engaging characters. They will always have the specter of “what if Martin Goodman had just not ripped off Kirby and Marvel kept him in the early 70s” shadow hanging over them. Then the New Gods would have been in Marvel and the Eternals likely never exist or look quite a bit different.
 
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Eternals is one of those hills I'll die on. But I'm also a sucker for a deconstructionist view of superheroes and what they do with the power they wield. It definitely wasn't for everyone, but it was absolutely for me.
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Same. I love Eternals. To me, it's a film about idolatry, religion, and ideological disputes between families told using superhuman characters and not A Marvel Movie, which is I guess part of the reason people don't like it (other than the social injustice warrior people who hated it for having an ethnically diverse cast/director). The best Eternals comics are very similar so I guess I just don't know what people were expecting! They're not superheroes.
 
They're robots! Whose master impregnated the planet/created the planet as an incubator.

A crazy idea can be a good crazy idea, but I'm really not sure how or why that story fits into the MCU. I am curious what the original plan was, and I'm down for a sequel. I wanna know what happens when Arishem comes to judge humanity. That's a HUGE open story thread - guess he's not in any hurry.

So anyone finish DD? That was violent.
 
Yeah. I think the violence has gone too far. Pretty hard to do their clever Punisher repudiation of his Fascist fanboys and wallow in the violence to the extant they are. Hard to play both sides of that coin.
 
I quite enjoyed Daredevil. Never watched the Netflix run and only have a surface level bit of info on the character, but it was good TV. Very much a downer of a series, but I don't think it could have been made more topical if they shot it yesterday. It was amusing to keep in the back of my mind as I watched it that this was a Disney production. I do think the ending of the season, which I didn't realize was only going to be 9 episodes, is one of those darkest before the dawn moments. The second season (or fifth?) will probably be a little more uplifting, though a villain like Fisk is also the type of real world villain that seems to never go away so maybe there's a limit to how optimistic it can be. And it was also nice that, even though it's a sequel series, it didn't feel like there was required homework to enjoy the thing.

As for the rest of the MCU, I definitely have little enthusiasm for it at this point, but X-Men '97 very much reminded me that the way to my heart is through that franchise. I don't really care about the Fantastic Four, I'll watch it if I hear it's good, but I'm just waiting on the mutants at this point.
 
Eternals was one of the only Marvel films I thought about, like with both brain and heart, long afterward. For me it was about all those things mentioned already, and also: is humanity worth saving, if you can? What does it mean to love this brutal, imperfect world in all it's beautiful, imperfect moments? It's a rumination way more than a tentpole movie, which is why I get why folks didn't necessarily gravitate to it. That fight at the end though was masterfully choreographed to show what happens if gods go to war with each other.

I spent the first half of the DD season deeply moved by it, because of the way the balanced the pain of restraining the rage inside yourself, that never-ending battle against your lesser and greater angels. The ending allegory was brutally spot on. The violence didn't bother me even a little bit, but I think that's because I'm really angry at the world and it felt cathartic. (I think all four seasons of Daredevil have had a theme of physical trauma and violence, so it just felt appropriate for THIS production, if out of place for MCU overall.) I also thought how they ended it was ballsy because I fully expected them to keep it a neat, tidy, one and done, and having faith in a production to have more than one season seems to be going out of style right now so building a bigger story was if not a bold choice, a very welcome one to me.

Fantastic Four trailer just made me feel upbeat. Who knows how the final product will be, but the trailers are filled with hope, and love, and it's a nice counterpoint to the brutal darkness of what we just saw. I actually think casting Pedro as Reed was smart because Reed can be so unlikeable and Pedro inherently gives you a sense of wanting to see if this person is decent at heart, so they give us a reason to not write him off immediately.
 
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