Marvel Cinematic Universe Figure Discussion

NORM said:
It’s a shame that decent movies are deemed failures based on box office numbers now. Doesn’t matter that it was a good movie, if it doesn’t make $X, it’s a failure in the eyes of the studio and will never be revisited.
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Even more unfortunate to me is how that way of thinking influences popular opinion. Movies that didn't do well are seen as bad by people who never watched them.
 
Ru1977 said:
Even more unfortunate to me is how that way of thinking influences popular opinion. Movies that didn't do well are seen as bad by people who never watched them.
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And vice versa as well: people translate “movie that made a lot of money” into “a good [as in “well made and artistically/culturally significant”] movie” whether deserved or (as is frequently the case) NOT deserved.
 
AceofKnaves said:
And vice versa as well: people translate “movie that made a lot of money” into “a good [as in “well made and artistically/culturally significant”] movie” whether deserved or (as is frequently the case) NOT deserved.
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Well and that even translates to humans heh. Sometimes you may speak ill of someone and someone else may say "well he makes more money than you do!"

But yeah, that's why the Transformers movies are some of the best films ever. And I'm not putting down anyone for enjoying them but we can all admit they aren't fine art.
 
Schizm said:
I really hope Hasbro doesn't waste our collective time on Cavill-rine. It was funny. Move on.

But all they're going to do is put his head on the tank Jackman body and waste a slot.
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Totally what they will do with Cavill-rine - I agree, such a boring waste of a spot. It's minimal tooling which makes sense in Hasblow's eyes but there are SOO many other offerings for the movie that would've been better suited - Ladydeadpool, Sabretooth, Pyro, Toad, or Juggie - I doubt we will ever see those character make it out of the MCU void of never done MLs!

I hear rumours of an armoured punisher - very likely comic - but would be cool if it was for the new BND movie!
 
Managed to track down a Yelena/Red Guardian set at a nearby Walmart. These two are great! Yelena is my favorite of the two, but I’m surprised by how much better this Red Guardian is over the BW movie version
 
AustinPowers said:
I hear rumours of an armoured punisher - very likely comic - but would be cool if it was for the new BND movie!
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Since Tony's dead I guess, I think it would be entertaining if Frank got a hold of one his suits or some Stark tech and made the Punisher War Machine suit. Doesn't have to last forever, have it get destroyed by the Hulk etc. Would just be for the novelty of it.
 
Random thoughts as I skimmed some comments here:

You know what's worst than Cavil-rine? Supercage--Nicolas Cage Superman. All that exists of him are some Polaroid pictures in a super suit. And yet DC WB tries to push him as in-continuity where they're CGIing him into movies. Ugh. No, I don't necessarily want a Cavil-rine figure either, but you know, if it's something as cheap and easy as slapping a Cavil head on a wife-beater Logan buck that they've already sold us twice, I'd say the odds are better than 50/50.

I am excited to see Marsden Cyclops in a Cyclops suit, I think he was well-cast in the movies, then his character was done dirty. I'm expecting nothing more than a one-and-done multiverse type send off, but that will be fine if it's done well.

I have not seen the Fantastic Four movie yet and that's a real shame. Ideally I'd see it with my wife but with the way my year has been going, I'd have to move a mountain just for three hours alone with her. I did it for Superman, don't know if it can be done twice before the summer is over. That said, I'm still interested in the figures, but I have yet to see them in person. It seems Target is getting nothing more than one case at a time and I don't know if I trust them to restock after that.
 
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Yeah, between Thunderbolts and F4 "flopping" (though I really do think we need to reassess what a "flop" really is in this day and age), it's a real shame, especially because both were, in my opinion, great movies. Ironically, I think it's the studios themselves that are at least partially responsible. Streaming really has done catastrophic damage to the theatrical industry; if folks know they can see a movie they're not sure about at home in a matter of weeks, why waste time and money at the movies? Same with the physical release- as much as I love my physical media, I think I'd happily go back to how it used to be- sometimes as much as 6 or so months after a theatrical release before it hits home media.

Still, I always view a "flop" as something that not only tanked theatrically but also was something of a mixed bag with audiences to the point that it could be considered a cult classic (but not always). For the most part, both Thunderbolts and F4 have done well with audiences, as have a lot of other recent "flops". I know the general rule is that it has to make back twice-ish its budget in order to break even/make profit, but in this day and age, I think it could really benefit studios to not only reign in the budget a bit, but for everyone- studios, critics, audiences, etc. to redefine what a "flop" really is. A lot of these movies go on to have huge lives on streaming. It may be a theatrical flop, but doesn't necessarily flop in general. Same with some streaming films- they're sometimes too good for streaming, and many agree they'd have done better on the big screen. It just feels odd- yet also strangely fitting- that we change so much in this world, but not our definitions of things to meet them.

Anywho, in order to keep things at least somewhat on topic- @Soundswipe - show us some pics of them 'bolts, my friend! Let us live vicariously through you until ours arrive!
 
joshsquash729 said:
Yeah, between Thunderbolts and F4 "flopping" (though I really do think we need to reassess what a "flop" really is in this day and age),
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Agreed, yes please!
joshsquash729 said:
it's a real shame, especially because both were, in my opinion, great movies.
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Again, agreed. I'll never stop praising Thunderbolts. I expected it to be entertaining and got so much more.
joshsquash729 said:
Ironically, I think it's the studios themselves that are at least partially responsible. Streaming really has done catastrophic damage to the theatrical industry; if folks know they can see a movie they're not sure about at home in a matter of weeks, why waste time and money at the movies?
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Definitely. When we went to see FF, it was so damned expensive. Partly because my son refuses to see a movie without popcorn. And of course I totally get that it's a whole experience, but back in my day...

Anyway, I'm definitely one who prefers to wait. When I do go to the theater, I always plan for early showings, weekdays if pot, to ensure the smallest audience, so I can't really bitch about that. But also I'm spoiled by recent inventions like rewind and pause control.

If they started consistently doing a PPV sort of release, even if it was a week after theatrical premieres, and good for one viewing, and $50, I would go for it. It's still gonna be cheaper than taking all five of us to the theater.
joshsquash729 said:
Same with the physical release- as much as I love my physical media, I think I'd happily go back to how it used to be- sometimes as much as 6 or so months after a theatrical release before it hits home media.
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That may be smart but there were plenty of movies back in the day I was willing to wait the six months for. Especially when I worked at video stores heh. But I was kinda over the theater experience long before the pandemic. I know it l, and streaming just in general, has done a lot of damage to the industry, but I'm kinda surprised the industry hasn't adjusted MORE to the new paradigm.
joshsquash729 said:
Still, I always view a "flop" as something that not only tanked theatrically but also was something of a mixed bag with audiences to the point that it could be considered a cult classic (but not always).
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Yeah, in my mind a true flop is something not worth seeing at all. It performed poorly because it really was bad. I've seen plenty of box office flops that still looked entertaining to me and enjoyed them, so I kinda forget sometimes that they are "flops". One of my favorite movies of all time is The Thing which definitely was a flop at the time.
joshsquash729 said:
For the most part, both Thunderbolts and F4 have done well with audiences, as have a lot of other recent "flops". I know the general rule is that it has to make back twice-ish its budget in order to break even/make profit, but in this day and age, I think it could really benefit studios to not only reign in the budget a bit
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YESSSSSS!!! I keep saying this as well. I don't see how any studio, even one producing 1-3 films a year, can truly sustain itself solely on big budget blockbusters, and certainly not in this age. I don't expect Marvel to start doing low budget Kevin Smith style comedies, but come on. Leaning harder into other genres would not only be smart as far as more diversity for the audience, but also for box office expectations. Do a sixty million comic book comedy that doesn't need to make half a billion to break even. Do straight up comic book horror (not Sam Raimi style horror with three stooges homages, but sincere horror), and so on.
joshsquash729 said:
, but for everyone- studios, critics, audiences, etc. to redefine what a "flop" really is. A lot of these movies go on to have huge lives on streaming. It may be a theatrical flop, but doesn't necessarily flop in general.
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Right, and with how things are now, for all studios, that needs to be factored in not only with how they calculate profit but how they plan budgeting. It's just... Kinda an insane time right now because a lot of people have multiple streaming services, each with lists and saved shows/movies FULL of things they'll never get to, and what they do watch is usually on their phone while at work or something. It is such a different world.
joshsquash729 said:
Same with some streaming films- they're sometimes too good for streaming, and many agree they'd have done better on the big screen. It just feels odd- yet also strangely fitting- that we change so much in this world, but not our definitions of things to meet them.
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Definitely agree once more. I dunno, I don't feel like I have the answers but I know adjusts are crucial.
joshsquash729 said:
Anywho, in order to keep things at least somewhat on topic- @Soundswipe - show us some pics of them 'bolts, my friend! Let us live vicariously through you until ours arrive!
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Yes please!!!!!
 
AceofKnaves said:
I am SO hungry for this.
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Right? I really feel this is the first one they need to do to break out of straight super hero formula. Maybe Blade was gonna do it, I dunno. Maybe that's why I was never too excited for Blade though because part of the charm of the Snipes movies, to me, was it was a covert CBM. Most people had no idea it was a comic at the time. A lot of people were probably wondering what the hell a horror character was doing in DP&W. But I expected Marvel Studios to comic book him up and go for a more traditional marvel movie style with not only the look of their Blade but also the plot and character. And I don't really think they need to do an exact replica of the Snipes movies, but still want something that stands out from the rest of Marvel Studios' catalog.
 
Ru1977 said:
And I don't really think they need to do an exact replica of the Snipes movies, but still want something that stands out from the rest of Marvel Studios' catalog.
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Honestly it took me a minute to acclimate to the original Blade film because it was *too* comic-book/Matrix for me. I did warm to it significantly, and I *love* Blade 2 (absolute top-tier Marvel film IMHO, way better than 90% of the MCU).
But what I *want* is a 70s-noir, grimy-grindhouse period film/series of Tomb of Dracula type stories. Gritty, scary, character-driven smaller-budget stuff, with great scripts and ACTORS (not “celebrities”) and a split narrative between Team Harker/Blade and Dracula/Lilith/Frost and other vampires/antagonists, with a feel/tone that has atmospheric touches of Dark Shadows and Hammer Films.
 
Oh damn, apologies, I totally forgot about Werewolf By Night... that's definitely different from a lot of Marvel stuff at least.

but yeah, that TOD sounds great! A series sounds pretty sweet.
 
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