Four Horsemen Studios Mythic Legions

[Dek]

I get what you're saying, but that design philosophy hasn't exactly helped out Super 7 either. But hey, what do I know about running an action figure company. I guess they do them.

 

[PantherCult]

I mean... Super7 overcharges like crazy for their product, but rampant parts re-use is NOT a thing you can hang on them. In fact the only significant parts reuse they employed was with lines they took over from Mattel, and they eventually moved off it entirely. Like there are tons of legitimate stones to throw at S7, but the recycling bodies over and over and over is a 4H thing.

 

[Dek]

I mean... Super7 overcharges like crazy for their product, but rampant parts re-use is NOT a thing you can hang on them. In fact the only significant parts reuse they employed was with lines they took over from Mattel, and they eventually moved off it entirely. Like there are tons of legitimate stones to throw at S7, but the recycling bodies over and over and over is a 4H thing.

I agree, I was more referring to their refusal to update their articulation schemes. But that's on me, I poorly communicated my point if it wasn't evident.

 

[docsilence]

4H posted a... I guess what I'd call a biological schematic of all the parts on the cleric/paladin on socials today as a selling point for how modular their line is. The funny thing is that a modular line might really appeal to D&D players who want to build their characters, but they don't really have modular parts, they have the same parts in different paint colors.

I can't help but wonder if they'd draw more interest from new folks if they had actual mix and match options instead of needing to buy multiple whole figures to do it, but that's really been their business models for customizers all along so I don't see them having a financial motivation to change that.

 

[Alt]

This might be to your liking, if you don't mind sanding and painting.

Juggerdwarf - LegionsShop Collection | Wolf King Customs

From the LegionsShop Collection - this head was sculpted by Jeremy Wilson. Note that this is sized to fit a 1.0 figure! It comes unpainted so you can use it in your own custom project. Note that any photos showing painted versions of this head are for example purposes only.

www.wolfkingcustoms.com

It's out of stock now, but I believe he still does periodic restocks on his 3d printed items. I've bought from Wolf King before and the only negative I could say is that he isn't great at cleaning up the nubs on his prints, but it's not too hard to do yourself with some high-grit sandpaper. Be sure to wear a mask when you sand.

This is rad. Thanks for putting it on my radar.

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Regarding the Shadow Elf: is she showing skin or are the sleeves fabric? I guess you could pass as both or do an arm swap. I think everything else about could work as a basis for another character I want to make, as long as I can slap the redhead on it.

Toronto Comic Con is this weekend and I'll be headed down for a casual traipse about, and aside from artist alley another big draw is eCollectibles usually has a booth with Savage and Mythics beyond what is on the site at a lower price, so hoping to grab Neve, maybe some of the armory knights (green looks so nice), and certainly some SC Lizards.

 

[Alt]

4H posted a... I guess what I'd call a biological schematic of all the parts on the cleric/paladin on socials today as a selling point for how modular their line is. The funny thing is that a modular line might really appeal to D&D players who want to build their characters, but they don't really have modular parts, they have the same parts in different paint colors.

I can't help but wonder if they'd draw more interest from new folks if they had actual mix and match options instead of needing to buy multiple whole figures to do it, but that's really been their business models for customizers all along so I don't see them having a financial motivation to change that.

Even then they don't make enough things evergreen to sate my wants. Armory knights are cool, the head packs are a nice direction. But I'm looking at the Rising weapons kits and wondering why we don't have more pauldrons and helmets and armor for kitting.

The wizard expansion sets a while ago really dressed up the figures.

 

[Damien]

I get what you're saying, but that design philosophy hasn't exactly helped out Super 7 either. But hey, what do I know about running an action figure company. I guess they do them.

I don't think it helps the 4H either, to be fair. Not in the long-term. Like with MANY people running businesses, I actually think a lot of what the 4H do is incredibly short-sighted and stupid, and they mostly just stumble through small successes thanks to brand loyalty and tribalism more than because they make a good product.
EVENTUALLY, that will wear thin. As it did with Super7.

I can't help but wonder if they'd draw more interest from new folks if they had actual mix and match options instead of needing to buy multiple whole figures to do it, but that's really been their business models for customizers all along so I don't see them having a financial motivation to change that.

I imagine that would help - something like the Marauder Gun-Runners business model. But ultimately, I still am not convinced there's sufficient overlap between D&D players and action figure collectors for this to be something you're doing for the D&D crowd so much as something you're doing because -people who buy toys- would enjoy it.

 

[docsilence]

I imagine that would help - something like the Marauder Gun-Runners business model. But ultimately, I still am not convinced there's sufficient overlap between D&D players and action figure collectors for this to be something you're doing for the D&D crowd so much as something you're doing because -people who buy toys- would enjoy it.

I don't think so, either. I do think they'd get a small percentage of TTRPG players who might want a vanity prop figure of their character, but we're not talking a huge chunk of that community. You'd get like, I imagine, the size of the group of people who buy 100 dollar dice trays or who spent a couple hundred bucks on bespoke art of their characters.

 

[Damien]

I don't think so, either. I do think they'd get a small percentage of TTRPG players who might want a vanity prop figure of their character, but we're not talking a huge chunk of that community. You'd get like, I imagine, the size of the group of people who buy 100 dollar dice trays or who spent a couple hundred bucks on bespoke art of their characters.

That's probably accurate. And I'm not sure how worthwhile that crowd is for the 4H to chase. Especially because that's probably also not going to represent a recurring customer. That's an every couple of years customer.

Like, I'd love to collect a line where I can make entire D&D parties based on games I've played. I started doing that with HACKS and I was SO happy doing it. But, as we've discussed a million times, I am a -toy collector- who plays D&D. I am not representative of D&D players generally where action figure collecting is concerned.

 

[docsilence]

If it were affordable? I'd buy sets of toys to represent every campaign I ran. Not to use IN the campaign, but just, y'know, to commemorate years of play. Or in the very least figures of my favorite NPCs I ran. But like you said, I'm actively a toy collector who also plays the games. The overlap is pretty thin.

Listening to the Eldritch Lorecast today they actually talked for a bit about kickstarters and how they work and there was a lot of discussion about how the trick is to get the designers in front of people to show potential players how excited you are to build this game. 4H has done their usual level of promotion for the figures, but just crickets about game design. They didn't mention this one at all, but it was pretty clear what attracts eyes from industry pros (like the ones at industry conventions) and what doesn't.

 

[Mint In Boks]

I admire the Horsemen’s commitment to the bit, losing $5k in two days, no longer on track to even hit $1m let alone beyond, and showing a set of repainted Marley books to tease the vampire lore master that “unlocks at $1.2m”

Bitches, please, it unlocks the third time the campaign cross $874k in a desperate hope to just finish ahead of AoD so you can spin this as your “most successful Kickstarter to date!”

 

[Damien]

They didn't mention this one at all, but it was pretty clear what attracts eyes from industry pros (like the ones at industry conventions) and what doesn't.

It's almost like industry insiders can see this for what it is: a shameless attempt by a bush league pile of dipshits to carpet bag their way into stealing money from actual gamers by reskinning 5E with some of the worst fantasy lore you will ever read.