Tracking toy tariffs

Whether you are for or against Trump’s new 15% tariffs they are most likely going to (and should) be found illegal due to judicial estoppel. Judicial estoppel prevents a party from taking a legal position in a case that directly contradicts a position they successfully maintained in a prior, separate proceeding. Trump’s lawyers already argued that the statue they are now using to give them authority put the 15% tariffs on was no longer valid so they cannot now use that the statue to justify their actions. Hopefully it does not take as long to go through the legal system as the last round.
 
Imagine what would happen to ANY one of us if we directly defied a higher court ruling, let alone a SUPREME COURT ruling.
 
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We are following the current developments of the Supreme Court ruling that most of the emergency tariffs affecting toys were deemed invalid. We understand that the case will now go back to the U.S. Court of International Trade, which will address the implementation of the Supreme Court’s ruling with regard to current and past imports. We also understand new tariffs are expected to be put in place within the next several days.

There will be a significant amount of information and clarifications coming out over the next several days and weeks. We will update this FAQ section as we learn more.

We are grateful to you, our valued customer, for your continued support throughout.
Frequently Asked Questions

Q: Are prices going down?
A: We do not know yet how the tariff ruling will impact suppliers' pricing or costs. We will continue to monitor the situation to evaluate any eventual impact.

Q: Will the price of my current open pre-orders go down?
A: Our current policy already reduces open pre-order tariff surcharge amounts when tariff charges are lower than the estimated tariff surcharge. If your current open pre-order indicated a tariff surcharge was included, and the tariff amount paid by BBTS changes for that item, then your price will change by that amount at the time we charge your payment method.

Q: Are you refunding tariff surcharges?
A: It is unclear if, how and when paid tariffs will be refunded by the government. We intend to pass customer paid tariff surcharge amounts back to our customers if and when BBTS receives refunds (from the government and/or our vendors) for those tariff surcharges. The specifics regarding if government or vendor refunds will be issued, how they would be calculated, or when they might occur are still very unclear and we will communicate updates as they develop.

Q: Does this affect all products, or only certain ones?
A: Not all items were affected by tariffs. Any potential impact would depend on the specific item and where it was sourced.





 
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Imagine what would happen to ANY one of us if we directly defied a higher court ruling, let alone a SUPREME COURT ruling.
I mean, the silly little thing about the Supreme Court is that they have no enforcement power.

When Biden canceled student debt and SCOTUS said otherwise, I was begging him to ignore the ruling. It's all made up. They only have as much power and legitimacy as you give them.
 
I mean, the silly little thing about the Supreme Court is that they have no enforcement power.

When Biden canceled student debt and SCOTUS said otherwise, I was begging him to ignore the ruling. It's all made up. They only have as much power and legitimacy as you give them.
That's true of a lot of our power structure. The reality is still the same that someone will just send cops to your house to arrest you, if you make it that far, because regular people barely have the ability to defend themselves.
 
You know, I guess it's a good thing that super powers/metahuman abilities aren't real, because I would be a menace, curing a lot of the world's ills. And what would the courts be able to do to stop someone clothed in such immense power? Especially when they can barely corral an already stupid and now dementia laden octogenarian.

Just imagine someone being willing to do what Homelander does, but you know...directed the "right" way.

I think about that on occasion. Sigh. To dream a dream. It's the only thing that gives me a sense of justice in this current climate. Because Lord knows we aren't seeing it otherwise.
 
Whether you are for or against Trump’s new 15% tariffs they are most likely going to (and should) be found illegal due to judicial estoppel. Judicial estoppel prevents a party from taking a legal position in a case that directly contradicts a position they successfully maintained in a prior, separate proceeding. Trump’s lawyers already argued that the statue they are now using to give them authority put the 15% tariffs on was no longer valid so they cannot now use that the statue to justify their actions. Hopefully it does not take as long to go through the legal system as the last round.

Not sure what you're saying here. They were arguing before the Supreme Court ruling that they had the authority to impose tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act of 1977, but the court ruled that act actually doesn't allow him to do that because the Constitution gives tax power to Congress and they can't give that away without explicitly doing so and the act doesn't mention tariffs at all. This seemed extremely clear and it's why a bunch of us in this thread have been predicting this decision since the court took the case.

He's justifying the new tariffs in the exact way he said he'd resort to back when the Supreme Court first took the case--the Trade Act of 1974. That one didn't justify a bunch of his prior tariffs because it explicitly limits the amount to a 15% tariff for up to 150 days and most of his old tariffs were well above that 15% rate. I don't think it justifies these new ones for a different reason--there's no actual emergency, and the 1974 act requires one. Most of the tariffs he changed have been unchanged for decades and trade imbalances with those nations have also been there for decades. What's new? Almost nothing. If he hasn't already been sued over the new tariffs he soon will be, and I don't see why he won't lose that case, too. He might've been able to make a case by only tariffing certain countries like China where the trade imbalance changes every year, but doing it to EVERY country makes the case against the new tariffs being due to emergency easy to prove.

My main surprise in the decision is that Kavanaugh somehow sniffed his own ass enough to convince himself that IEEPA somehow gave the president the power of the purse which is definitely does not. His reasoning is full of logical fallacy that I can't make complete sense of without a dozen or more "but you're ignoring..." thoughts as you read through his logic. I had hoped Alito and Thomas would take the same originalist view they usually do with law but hey, they've always been politicians more than judges so I'm not surprised by them voting for their team.

I'm also surprised Trump threw a tantrum and just put a blanket 10% and then 15% tariff on everyone again. You can evaluate Trump's ideas on tariffs somewhat charitably by pointing out that he actually did work out a bunch of deals with dozens of countries to get more back from them than they previously ever gave us by threatening them with tariffs that would presumably last at least three years and more likely longer than that. Several countries had given concessions to get their tariff down below 10%...and now they get punished and reset back to 15% WHY, exactly? Because Trump is pissed at the Supreme Court taking his ball away and wants to flex in the mirror while ignoring the diplomatic price of doing that? Any country that negotiated with Trump in good faith just got kicked in the nards. Why would any of them renegotiate yet again with him when he's so inconsistent? :rolleyes:
 
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