Tracking toy tariffs

Musk tearing apart critical functions of the government, RFK dehumanizing people with everything from autism to ADHD to depression, Sebastian Gorka stating anyone critical of deportations occurring without due-process are technically also criminals...

God forbid anyone be perceived as rude.

I wouldn't mind a "good news" thread alongside this, though. Very difficult to see the bright spots right now.
 
Musk tearing apart critical functions of the government, RFK dehumanizing people with everything from autism to ADHD to depression, Sebastian Gorka stating anyone critical of deportations occurring without due-process are technically also criminals...

God forbid anyone be perceived as rude.

I wouldn't mind a "good news" thread alongside this, though. Very difficult to see the bright spots right now.

Ask and you shall receive.
 
From a moderation standpoint, just want to add that context is key, and I submit to you that we’d be handling someone who came to “fight” differently than a one-off “screw you guys, I’m going home” post, which is what the inciting incident seemed to be here.
And to be clear, it’s the dogpile, not the principled opposition to fascism, that we’d hope to avoid in the future.
I don’t personally think anyone spoke out of turn . . . there was just a LOT of speaking, if you dig me.

And to be super-duper clear: keeping this a (reasonably) peaceful environment is the goal here, NOT giving space to and apologizing for destructive ideologies.

For my part: if y’all see activity that is destructive to the community (bigotry, open support of fascism, you know the drill), drop a line to the mods. We will handle it decisively, and with a minimum of fuss. I think a lot of us are used to having to push back against destructive incursive forces without backup, and I get that: I’m used to that too. But that’s not what’s going to happen here. You DO have backup, and the moderation team is unequivocally on the side of reason, decency, respect and inclusion. We are committed to keeping this place safe and positive, and while we will strive to be fair we will not languish in impotent neutrality.

And because it should be said: yeah, that inciting post was a pretty callow dirty trick, in my view designed to start a chain reaction that the original poster could point to and say: “see, so much for the ‘tolerant left’”. And I don’t think we owe civility to that attitude, but I think we should do our best not to fall into those traps when they are set. I fall into those traps myself, so I totally get it. Let’s all lean on each other, and make this a place where that kind of talk is discouraged.

We’ve got this, folks. This is already a great place to be, and we will all keep it that way. Keep being honest and open, and we will figure out all the rest of it.
 
And because it should be said: yeah, that inciting post was a pretty callow dirty trick, in my view designed to start a chain reaction that the original poster could point to and say: “see, so much for the ‘tolerant left’”. And I don’t think we owe civility to that attitude, but I think we should do our best not to fall into those traps when they are set. I fall into those traps myself, so I totally get it. Let’s all lean on each other, and make this a place where that kind of talk is discouraged.

We’ve got this, folks. This is already a great place to be, and we will all keep it that way. Keep being honest and open, and we will figure out all the rest of it.
Well, now...see this is murky to me. I'm not sure who you're speaking to.

Since we all now know it was my post, I would like to discuss this openly here.

Are you saying my post was meant to be inciteful, that it was callow? Because I assure you that it was in no way, shape, or form intended on my part to incite anything other than "here is how I view it, and I would like for you to explain to me how it's not the way I see it". We were having a disagreement/discussion where one individual was seemingly defending (repeatedly) something that I vehemently oppose and abhor. Something that we all should.

Unless I am misunderstanding, and you're referring to the post that I was responding to, and I was the one who fell into said trap. In which case, I still argue that it was fairly tame compared to what I wanted to say. 😆

Regardless, just looking for some clarification, uh-thank you.
 
just looking for some clarification
Hahaha oh yeah, total misunderstanding, no worries I get it.
Definitely NOT referring to your post, but rather the “you guys are mean to MAGA, I’m leaving” post that inspired your (and others’) reply.
And no, I don’t think any individual went “too far” in rebutting. Like I said: it was the dogpile we’d hope to avoid in future.
 
The person in question who reported it (or at least who my post was in response to, so I can only assume it was them) knows who they are.
The person who reported the post was not the person you were responding to. We won't provide more detail than that.
For Clarity

People get upset. People get offended. People say the wrong things, and sometimes people take things the wrong way. The reality is that we're never going to be in the business of policing the feelings and emotions of anyone else here. If someone tells us that they've been offended in some way, all we can really do is take them at their word, assume the best intentions, and do our best to course correct.
This is right. We're trying to cultivate a space that's welcoming, transparent, and empathetic. Part of that is assuming good faith. If someone says they're offended, we're going to hear them out.

I don't think the reported post was necessarily reported because it was offensive. It was emblematic of increasing tension. We're going to discuss neo-Nazis, deportations, and whatever else on this board, but we're not going to do it in this thread going forward. When this thread started, we had ~20 like-minded members. It made sense to herd all political talk in one thread. I discussed this with the moderation team, and we all agreed that apoliticals, centrists, and Trump voters should all be welcome here. That means leaving space to talk about tariffs and their impact on our hobby without wading into everything else.

You can mention Trump. It's his policy. You can criticize the tariffs or the economy he's running. That's all fair game in a thread about toy tariffs. Let's keep everything else in the politics thread.
And to be super-duper clear: keeping this a (reasonably) peaceful environment is the goal here, NOT giving space to and apologizing for destructive ideologies.
Yep. Tempers can flare and passions can rise, especially when we're talking about the fate of our country. I've certainly posted out of anger on a message board before. It happens. In the spirit of what we're trying to make this place, let's aim to minimize the condescension and aggression as much as we can.
For my part: if y’all see activity that is destructive to the community (bigotry, open support of fascism, you know the drill), drop a line to the mods. We will handle it decisively, and with a minimum of fuss. I think a lot of us are used to having to push back against destructive incursive forces without backup, and I get that: I’m used to that too. But that’s not what’s going to happen here. You DO have backup, and the moderation team is unequivocally on the side of reason, decency, respect and inclusion. We are committed to keeping this place safe and positive, and while we will strive to be fair we will not languish in impotent neutrality.
Yes. We have a zero-tolerance policy for slurs, bigotry, and hateful language. If you see someone trolling or antagonizing people, let us know. We'll deal with it.
And because it should be said: yeah, that inciting post was a pretty callow dirty trick, in my view designed to start a chain reaction that the original poster could point to and say: “see, so much for the ‘tolerant left’”. And I don’t think we owe civility to that attitude, but I think we should do our best not to fall into those traps when they are set. I fall into those traps myself, so I totally get it. Let’s all lean on each other, and make this a place where that kind of talk is discouraged.
The CaptainCracker situation is tricky. I remember him well from Fwoosh. I think he made his post out of hurt rather than an attempt to stir the pot. I can imagine how it might've felt to come here and read 30 pages of liberals deconstructing the election, the Trump movement, and the future of our country. I bet it was alienating. At the same time, people are not immune to the consequences of their actions.

Trump supporters have a right to be here. They do not have a right to feel like everyone agrees with them or likes them.

I understand this is a difficult needle to thread. If you have questions or want me to expound on anything, just ask.
We’ve got this, folks. This is already a great place to be, and we will all keep it that way. Keep being honest and open, and we will figure out all the rest of it.
To quote Donald Trump, I have the best people.
 
The zero leverage piece with China Engimatic points out above is what baffles me. We know China has all the leverage AND the government holds INTENSE grudges. Like, I think if we emerge out of this disaster in four years, some of the countries we've alienated could be persuaded to at least try working with our government again, but we know, we knoooooow, China holds a grudge. This is going to cause unreconcilable issues for manufacturing and trade. (I wouldn't blame other countries if they never trust us again, but I think at least some, if we are ever under better leadership again, could give us the "I know you were drunk at the time, don't do that again" speech and be willing to at least talk to us civilly. And I fully acknowledge that statement is WILDLY optimistic that we'll get to have that conversation in the first place.)
Speaking as a Canadian who consumes media up here Trump has done a lot of harm. Just heard a report that in March there were approximately 3 million land border crossings from Canada to the US. Sound like a lot, but apparently that is 900,000 less than March last year. Also some tourist spots in the US are reporting a 70% drop in bookings compared to last year. That also probably has something to do with a lot of warnings from the private and public sector about non-essential travel to the US. As well as the warning to only use burner phones and "clean" devices if you have to travel to the US.

And that is not even taking into account official government communication about the travel situation. That and how Trump and his rhetoric helped the Liberal party go from a wipe out in the election to a strong chance of forming the government again which was all but impossible less than 2 months ago.

So yeah it is going to be tough to comeback from the damage being done unless, or until, the republicans are out.

As to China and the tariffs. Yes they have a long memory and hold a grudge. However I think right now is such a dangerous time because of Putin, Jingping and Trump. All 3 of them are autocratic (at the least) and OLD. I have talked about this with friends and family before. They all have, at best, a decade of solid physical health left. That means they are probably at their most dangerous now because they probably can't expect to keep up as they are now so it is "now or never" to really make a power play for their legacy. So with tariffs there is no reason to back down when you aren't being challenged politically. The scarier part is what they could do (in Putin's case what more) to try and force the world into the shape they want. Because after they are done, especially Putin and Xi, there is no clear successor and if the countries are in bad shape the next leader may want to distance themselves from what came before.
 
Got the notification email from BBTS this afternoon about the tariff pricing going into effect. I was curious if there would be estimates, but it was basically a notice to say that I have preorders and they will be subject to additional tariffs when they come in. Curious how this will work with items that required a NRD. They say you can cancel if you don't like the final price after tariffs, but would I lose the NRD? All things to be sorted out, but it looks like just about every listing on the site has a disclaimer about tariffs not included in the price. The site is also running really slow so I wonder if there's a ton of traffic right now because of it.
 
Got the notification email from BBTS this afternoon about the tariff pricing going into effect. I was curious if there would be estimates, but it was basically a notice to say that I have preorders and they will be subject to additional tariffs when they come in. Curious how this will work with items that required a NRD. They say you can cancel if you don't like the final price after tariffs, but would I lose the NRD? All things to be sorted out, but it looks like just about every listing on the site has a disclaimer about tariffs not included in the price. The site is also running really slow so I wonder if there's a ton of traffic right now because of it.
The weird part is none on most NECA preorders I've noticed. How?

Edit: Nevermind, I take that back. Tariffs applied. This saps the fun out of the hobby so much. Be super if Congress did their job...not just for the toys.
 
The biggest takeaway I get from his first term is just how ineffectual he actually is. He is, by far, the stupidest person to ever take Office. Stupid, ignorant, a weak leader, lazy...and quite possibly undiagnosed ADHD. He loses interest in things quickly.

All one has to do is look at his first go around to see how little he actually got accomplished. He skated by on Obama's economy, and kept his cult by undoing anything that had Barack's name attached to it. That is certainly no way to govern, and that is effectively what he is doing now. "Oh, Biden did that? Undo it!".

As stubborn as he is, he will abandon these tariffs eventually when he loses interest. The issue is just how much damage it will do with our partners and allies until then.
 
BBTS is going hard on clearancing things. Looks like that's their solution to short term cash flow? Or maybe they're counting on folks wanting older stuff while they wait this out.
 
I got an email that said they adjusted prices. I assume they dropped the or existing 10% tariff to assume a baseline of 0 and then will charge the actual tariff whatever that is whenever that is. At least that what it seemed to imply.
 
I got an email that said they adjusted prices. I assume they dropped the or existing 10% tariff to assume a baseline of 0 and then will charge the actual tariff whatever that is whenever that is. At least that what it seemed to imply.
I think that's what they are saying. There seems to be a lot of confusion over their email though.
 
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