The Countdown to SDCC 2025!

If things don't turn out how I hope they will and the Inhumans and Deathbird are just false rumors, I can see next years Top 10 looking something like this:

Locks from 2025. They aren't ever leaving the Top 10 until they are made, just like Feral and Rachel:
Skurge
Attuma
Jack of Hearts
Mantis
Psylocke - Outback Armor
Swordsman

Additions who I think people didn't vote for because they were rumored:
Deathbird
Triton
Gorgon

New to the Top 10
Exodus

Might remain, might fall off due to ties and whatnot:
Baron Blood
Firebird
 
PantherCult said:
For me... even if Mantis is a bit costlier to do because of the skirt design and flared shoulders.. off-set that by putting her in a 2-pack with Swordsman. He could be done with very little new tooling. They both have MCU appearances to bolster their cred and we get two needed Avengers in one fell swoop.

It's like the low tool options they have for Spider-Man waves. If something in the wave gets expensive toss in the Spot as a no-tool wave filler to help. Will-o-the-Wisp is another near zero tool option.

And since I got the dramatic NEVER for my M'baku wish... maybe I'll become the Attuma guy. Can't be any moral objections there. Give me my Artuma!
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You beat me to it. Swordsman would absolutely help cost out a classic Mantis. They just don't want to do it.
And a classic Man Ape/M'Baku is in my top 10 as well. That is not going to change and I will continue to ask for the characters I want the most.
 
That's what I was trying to say - Mantis is not THAT much new tooling - she's certainly not a completely new sculpt. Her legs are an existing sculpt, I'm pretty sure we have bare female feet, her arms aren't a new sculpt, so it's just a lower torso so the skirt can key in - or not, see Mystique again and again and again - upper torso and a head.

Maybe it's the paint - having to paint a two-tone skirt and uniform must be the budget killer.
 
Let us not forget something very important. The Hasbro Marvel Legends team knows who we are now, and they know where we are. They are watching. We now have a voice.

Jack of Hearts is a cool character with a very striking look. But he's also a niche character who hasn't had that many appearances in the comics. He's never been in any movies or live action TV shows and he only ever appeared in a cartoon once (That I know of). He had a non speaking part in the 90's Silver Surfer cartoon as part of Nebula's crew. His costume has a very beautiful design but it's also intricate. Designing a figure would be labor intensive, as would applying all that paint. Also bear in mind that, as I said earlier, we live in Batman/Spider-Man/X-Men world now. It would be much easier and more profitable for Hasbro to just make the latest iteration of Spider-Man and Wolverine than Jack of Hearts. Jack, as much as I love the dude, is a long shot to say the least.

So you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to keep asking for Jack of Hearts in Marvel Legends. And I'm not going to stop asking until one gets made.

And I'm going to keep asking for Mantis, Swordsman, Man-Ape, the Warriors Three, Balder, Heimdall, Skurge, Two-Gun Kid, Bucky, Toro, Whizzer, Miss America, Marvel Boy, Namorita, 70's Falcon, Deathbird, Serpent Society, Triton, Gorgon, Maximus the Mad, Firebird, original Guardians of the Galaxy and a whole big long list of others.

I love Spider-Man and the X-Men, but Marvel is so much more than just that. We can't let Disney and Hasbro forget how rich the Marvel Universe is, how epic and sprawling. From the 19th century American Frontier to the beaches of Normandy in World War II, from the gleaming gates of Asgard to the lower east side of Manhattan and Yancy Street, from the 30th century to the Savage Land, there are so many cool characters that have dedicated and loyal fan followings. They deserve their chance at representation.

You know what gives me hope? Armadillo. I remember when a movement started on the Fwoosh to get an Armadillo figure made, and the answer was a big fat resounding definitive NO. "Not just no, but fuck no. We're not doing it, it would cost too much, no one outside of a few dies hards would buy it, so just forget it." That was our answer. So if you enjoy your Armadillo figure, you can thank a few folks who kept beating the drum and didn't give up. Thank you, @hmmberto.

And thank you, @hmmberto for the cards. Now the Legends team knows where we're at. Thank you, @Beamish for the polls and for being our voice and our advocate at comic con. And thank you, @TheSameIdiot, for creating this forum. I feel really, really good about this place. We're going to make some things happen.

I can assure you that the Hasbro Legends team is here. They are lurking. What we say here matters.

So Jack has just a 2 in 10 chance of getting made, huh? Ha. We'll see.

Roll up your sleeves, kids. We have work to do.
 
While it is true that making the 19th Wolverine figure may give bigger dividends in the immediate, fleshing out the line keeps the whales (us) involved. Risky proposition to ignore the whales completely. I work in a collectory retail world. I see it every day.
 
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Beamish said:
No Serpents?
I guess the pink and purple paint for Diamondback who can be made with existing parts and a new head is too costly.
And the green paint added to a Mystique body to create Asp, too.
And the yellow for Coachwhip.
And the blue and black paint accents on Black Racer.
And the orange paint for Boomslang.
And the orange/purple paint combo for Fer-de-Lance.

They can all be made right now with existing parts and new heads.
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sorry for quoting an old message, but the first thing i did (after my first two posts) was search my girl Rachel Leighton, and you just became an internet buddy for wanting the Serpent Society finished
 
"This has makings of team that can raise to glory. Bring light from darkness."

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"This team can be the heroes on the Wheaties box with the little kiddie toy!"
 
SDcomics said:
He doesn't speak for the whole company.
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Isn't he head of toys? I thought when it comes to toys Jesse pretty much DOES speak for the entire company, although certainly he doesn't have carte blanche to do whatever he wants and has limits placed upon him by licenses and whatever content and characters he thinks Marvel wants to sell the most based upon whatever comics and films they're currently marketing.

Certainly Ryan and Dan attribute certain deep cut figures to him requesting them. Which makes sense since he's their customer.
 
My point was Jesse doesn't always have the final say so. He's said "no" before to characters we did eventually get. Armadillo is one. There have been others. Back in the early ToyBiz days, I asked him about Yellowjacket. He said "no, that's too much of a niche character for mass market, you should go ask Marvel Select". Well, a Marvel Select Yellowjacket would be out of scale, but Hank is a size changer, so what the hell. I walked over to the Diamond booth and asked them. The nice guy there told me "No, no plans for Yellowjacket. You should go ask Jesse." So I sighed and resigned myself to never getting Yellowjacket. A few years later, right after Hasbro got the license, we got Yellowjacket. Here's another example. Back in the early days of Legends and the Fwoosh, Jesse was notorious on the boards for his hatred of Kang. He couldn't stand that character. "He's nothing but a cheap Dr. Doom rip-off" was what he would say. I'm sure you can start to see a pattern here. We did evntually get a Kang figure. That same year at Comic Con, I made it a point to thank Jesse personally for Kang. He just said "Don't thank me. If it were up to me, that figure would never have gotten made." I thanked him again anyway. He just gave me the famous Jesse glare. That look that says "Shutup, fanboy."

Look, I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea about Jesse. Despite his somewhat brusque demeanor, he really does care about these characters and he does care about the fans. That's why he goes to comic con. He wants to hear what's on our minds, even if he doesn't always like it. He seems like a grouchy old man, but I knew him when he was a grouchy young man and I know he has a bigger heart than he lets on. After 25 years I've learned how best to approach him. I hope.

I don't work at Hasbro or Marvel so I don't know what the inner workings are like, I just know that Jesse has used the word "never" when discussing the possibility of certain characters in Legends and we've gotten them anyway. That is a fact.

That's why I'm going to keep asking for characters like Jack of Hearts, Warriors Three, Dracula, Two-Gun Kid, and all the others that have long odds. I'm like Han Solo. Never tell me the odds. I have been with this line since the very beginning. I remember when Jesse Falcon announced the first wave of a new line called Marvel Legends to the world. I was standing right next to him when he did it. That's how far back I go. That's why I never give up hope.
 
SDcomics said:
Back in the early days of Legends and the Fwoosh, Jesse was notorious on the boards for his hatred of Kang. He couldn't stand that character. "He's nothing but a cheap Dr. Doom rip-off" was what he would say. I'm sure you can start to see a pattern here. We did evntually get a Kang figure.
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The pattern there is that Kevin Feige essentially overrode him most likely without explicitly saying anything at all to Jesse by including Kang as a prominent figure in the MCU. Interesting story though, and I assume it means Jesse isn't too broken up about them being forced to abandon their future Kang movies.
 
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