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The HISS and Rattler outselling the Dragonfly and SnowCAT has an obvious answer. Cobra Commander would tell us himself.

"Join COBRA! Our Toyssssss are ssssssexier than that GI Joe drivel!"
 
AceofKnaves said:
Wooo! It’s vulva time!!
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docsilence said:
The HISS and Rattler outselling the Dragonfly and SnowCAT has an obvious answer. Cobra Commander would tell us himself.

"Join COBRA! Our Toyssssss are ssssssexier than that GI Joe drivel!"
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It's true. Just like the Empire. Hate what they stand for, but damn do they know how to design some sexy shit.
 
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I hate I missed all the final hours backer watch chatter but I was driving back from Oklahoma. Don't think I wasn't occasionally refreshing the page and watching though and I ended up backing when I stopped for gas.

I'm just so relieved and thankful I get my weiners and skillet of eggs! Anyone want this dumb old SnowCAT and figures that I'm probably giving away for free??
 
Well...for some unknown reason, my payment for the Snow Cat was declined. Can't update payment method via the website. Called them on phone, was on hold for 20 minutes, and there's no resolution...yet. They're working on it and will "escalate" the problem. They said I have 15 days to resolve a Haslab payment (vs 5 days for normal orders). Guess I'm just supposed to check in a few days and see if they allow me to try payment again via the website. Well, this will be interesting.
 
I think going forward instead of the bells & whistles treatment the Haslabs go for, they should step back a bit on the fancy extras and go for the Made to Order model instead if it's something on the bigger side.

Those who keep on with the "it could totally work at retail" angle either are forgetting or aren't aware of what happened with the 4" line 10-15 years back. So many cool vehicles (some new, others retooled and more detailed versions of the OG ones) that were all left to rot on the shelves until heavily discounted, at which point the Joe nerds all would swoop in on their bargain hunts. Then they all had the gall to ask why Hasbro canned the Joe line without a shred of self-awareness.

I saw so much of this shit on Joe boards that I do not blame Hasbro at all for being reluctant to return to their old sales model.
 
Yeah, I do think big vehicles at retail are a bit of a risk. A made-to-order model with mid-sized vehicles feels like it would really work, especially because they've had success with that model for Marvel stuff (and I mean... Dragon Man is FANTASTIC so they're not skimping on the details with MTO). I wonder if that's how they'll do this alleged arctic HISS since it's supposed to be stripped down from the original.
 
There's no reason they can't continue Haslabs AND also offer some made-to-order vehicles around the $175-200 mark. A stripped down HISS without electronics and without tier items in a different color (red was the rumor but Hasbro peeps themselves have hinted at a white one) for $175 has rumored. I think it'll be too pricey for other retailers, so I'm thinking it'll be made-to-order via Pulse.
 
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Ashtalon said:
There's no reason they can't continue Haslabs AND also offer some made-to-order vehicles around the $175-200 mark.
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That's likely the path forward they're already on. Isn't the AWE a Pulse exclusive 100-dollar vehicle? I'd argue most items larger than a deluxe figure are going to end up as Pulse exclusives or .. whatever it is they're calling things that you can only get at toy e-tailers. I don't think Target and Walmart have any real interest in large, expensive G.I. Joe things.

They will not get rid of HasLabs until they prove unprofitable. Period. The SnowCat funded. There WILL be another one. The reality likely isn't a shift so much as an expansion. Next year maybe we'll get a HasLab AND a big made-to-order AND 4 Pulse exclusive sub-150 dollar vehicles. Because they're always going to add to the offerings until it hits unsustainability.

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Well, I don't think it's a big mystery. The Snow Cat just isn't as appealing as the previous vehicles.
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That could certainly be part of it. But I do imagine it's a lot more complicated. I'd also speculate that the larger Joe vehicles - in general - aren't as popular as the larger Cobra vehicles. For whatever reason. I see way more people asking for the Sky Hawk (or whatever it's being called right now) than are even half-mumbling about a Fang. Just for example. There seems to be more parity, I guess, in the smaller vehicles. But larger vehicles? The HISS, Rattler, Night Raven are three of the four most iconic vehicles in the world of Joe toys.

The Joes' most legendary vehicles are the Flagg and the Skystriker - two things we will probably never see in Classified.

By contrast to the SnowCat and Dragonfly (which didn't do gangbusters better than the SnowCat, really), the VAMP and non-TF Ram Cycle seemed to do very well for Hasbro. And people seem VERY excited about the AWE.

Personally, I'm still hoping we get one last stab at a HasLab Joe vehicle: The Conquest. That's one of my favorite aircraft in fiction. I love it like I love X-Wings.
 
I think the Conquest is as close to a lock for a Classified Joe HasLab as we’ve got at this point. They’ve got to want to get a Joe plane of some kind out there, and it won’t be the Skystriker. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Conquest is the 2027 HasLab.
 
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