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docsilence said:
It's funny, waaaaay back when the campaign started we had a lot of talk about the assumption of the figures and their value, but it almost seems like at the end... I guess a lot of people do math in that third or or fourth figure into the purchase price?
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If we're talking about in the sense that every item shown is part of the value calculation for the price? Yeah, absolutely. It's been said a half dozen times already; tiers represent what Hasbro have factored in to their costs in creating this project. If we don't reach a tier, it feels like value -removed-, rather than reaching tiers feeling like value added. Which means a lot of people will sit on the fence until the value equation makes sense to them.
 
NORM said:
I have to rationalize the cost of each figure subtracted from the overall price of backing. It’s why I need every figure/tier to unlock. For something like Giant Man, with no figures as tiers, the overall price was considerably lower than that of HasLabs that included figures as tiers. What I don’t want to pay for are the electronic gimmicks I will never use. These get displayed, and rarely if ever turned on.
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That’s pretty much where I am too. The figures or things like the entire camp setup are the tiers I am more interested in. The electronics pretty much go unused after I fire them up once to impress the kids and try to make the family see it as more than just a normal toy.

When it comes to the HasLabs I take the figures (and campsite in this one) and subtract their “value” from the overall price to see if I think it is worth it. Also in ones like this where I actually want the tiers more than the base I try to figure what it would cost to buy them later on eBay versus the cost if I buy HasLab and flip it while keeping the tiers. I ended up doing that with the Dragonfly (I just didn’t have the room for it) and it worked to my advantage but I sat out of the Rattler because I wasn’t sure about making my money back on it when the biggest draw to me was the Baroness and Weasel. I figured the size of it would make it really hard to sell and after the Dragonfly I had learned that no matter how neat it is unless I can hang it from the ceiling I have no room for a large flying vehicle. The Hiss and Cat can live on the floor and be fine.
 
Oh I was definitely out on flying Classified HasLabs. Too big. I’d take smaller ones like the Sky Hawk or Firebat. But if Star Wars Black Series ever HasLabbed an X-Wing Fighter, there’s no way I wouldn’t back it. Just too iconic, too directly related to the main star of the franchise.
 
NORM said:
Oh I was definitely out on flying Classified HasLabs. Too big. I’d take smaller ones like the Sky Hawk or Firebat. But if Star Wars Black Series ever HasLabbed an X-Wing Fighter, there’s no way I wouldn’t back it. Just too iconic, too directly related to the main star of the franchise.
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I wonder if they've ever had internal meetings about the X-Wing - it feels like the one Black Series Haslab that would truly work.

I will admit the electronics and lights have been wasted on me until just recently on the other Classified vehicles, but I took some photos setting up a "night rescue" with the Dragonfly a few weeks back and I'm sitting there in my studio like... okay, okay, FINE, the lights really are pretty effin cool, I'll admit it.
 
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docsilence said:
I wonder if they've ever had internal meetings about the X-Wing - it feels like the one Black Series Haslab that would truly work.

I will admit the electronics and lights have been wasted on me until just recently on the other Classified vehicles, but I took some photos setting up a "night rescue" with the Dragonfly a few weeks back and I'm sitting there in my studio like... okay, okay, FINE, the lights really are pretty effin cool, I'll admit it.
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The obvious problem with a Black Series X-Wing is that it would be 3.5 feet long with a 3 feet wingspan, or wrong. So if you're doing it right, that's a fuckin' BIG toy. By comparison, the Rattler has a 2.5' wingspan and is under 3 feet long. And, I'll add, the ONLY real criticism people seem to have had of it then or now is that it does feel a little on the small side compared to the figures.

So I don't know what the market is for a scaled down X-Wing. Can you make it stubbier without ruining the look of it? Maybe that's the hold-up; creating something that looks right from all the angles while actually trimming the size down.

The Black Series TIE also did not perform well and that's likely making Hasbro gunshy about anything like a HasLab X-Wing. Especially given Black Series HasLab has only failed so far. They do not want another failure under their belt, so they gotta be sure it's a winner if they do it.
 
If you're talking Black Series Star Wars vehicles — I think one of the few that would work for a Haslab would be the AT-ST. They could do something pretty close to scale that would probably look very impressive. And with it being more vertical, it wouldn't be a huge hassle to display. Nothing else in the OT really makes a lot of sense, maybe a desert skiff.
 
Yep. It went from 16,806 as the clock struck zero to 15,758. That's weird. At first I thought it was another 50-odd drop, then I realized it went from 16K to 15K as well ...
 
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