NECA - General Thread

Yeah, NECA is a company that I really want to root for. When they're good, they're quite good. But when they're bad, it can be painful, and it's even harder to stick up for them sometimes. I haven't had many experiences with their store- one was great, one was pretty disastrous. And I shudder to remind everyone of the catastrophe that was the Sewer Lair shipping debacle.

Don't get me wrong- it's totally fine for a company to have their priorities, which TMNT certainly is for them. But to neglect other properties or let them lapse into disarray is disappointing, especially when it's clear that there's some pretty passionate people who work for them, who do genuinely love some of those smaller properties. And it's not like they don't sell- all I ever see in my neck of the woods are the same handful of Jaws figures, an Evil Dead 2 pack, and some TMNT figures (Ultimate-wise; there's always a bunch of old Toony Terrors). Every other figure that pops up from time to time is gone the next time I'm there. I don't know if that's more to do with distribution, the elusive NECA rep that supposedly exists but I never see, or what. Part of me is tempted to grab figures I'm not even interested in, just because I know how rare it is to find something new, and I probably never will again. At worst, I can help someone else out who's looking for it.

I've wondered too what they're gonna do when they catch up on TMNT releases. Sure, there's probably a fair amount of ground left to cover. I only just saw the 2012 show figures the other day. I assume they'll move on to maybe the live action ones and Mutant Mayhem after that? But then what? They'll hit a wall eventually, and I don't necessarily see them putting the same amount of effort into any other property they have.

In this day and age, with as expensive as everything is, what I want more than anything (aside from quality, of course) is a guarantee of dedication. Meaning they acquired the license with the goal of making as many characters as possible, giving them all the same love and attention, and making sure that they're readily available. Obviously I understand things happen- prices go up, sales fluctuate, rights issues pop up, etc., but especially with some of these older, more beloved properties, they know that there's a dedicated fanbase that wants more than just 1 or 2 characters. While sure, sometimes you have a property where it can be represented by 1 or 2 title characters, when it comes to teams or families, why even bother if you don't fully intend on completing it? You wouldn't get the Laurel and Hardy license only to give us Laurel. You wouldn't acquire the Three Stooges and give us 2 of the 3. The fastest way to lose fan interest, and therefore sales, is to show a clear lack of dedication.
 
Don't worry, you'll get 31 different flavors of Chuckie in lieu of the main cast of the Munsters. You'd think being able to say "we've completed a line!" would be something NECA wants to have as a feather in their cap. I still don't understand literally making the remaining Gargoyles stuff and just opting to never put it out. Do it as a NECA store exclusive, they put out much more obscure stuff than Gargoyles and at least you wouldn't have a bunch of your core collectors P.O.-ed because you no longer care.
 
Yeah, the Chuckie blind boxes are cute in theory, but maddening in execution. I will continue to despise blind boxes for the rest of time- they'd sell just as many if they'd just let you know which one you were getting, but no. The only line I can really see the blind box thing working for would be Gremlins- so many different Gremlin designs, and for the most part, it kind of makes sense to have more than 1 of some of them, but they ran that license dry a while ago.
 
Off topic but -
Non-horror fans tend to think anyone who loves it is psychotic. Quite the opposite, actually.

I suspect this is accurate for "jump scare/spooky/supernatural" horror and slasher/serial killer horror fans, but I am less sure about the torture horror fans. The first two types work more on the adrenaline rush of the suspense of possible escape vs not escaping the situation/killer, and while they can have gore, it tends to be kind of quick. But things like Terrifier and Green Inferno and some of the torture porn stuff at times revels in lingering on the suffering and pain that the victims go though while being killed - there is an aspect of cruelty to it, at least to me, that I think might speak to some folks in a way that isn't healthy.

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Anyway, I too am waiting to see if they announce more Munsters before I go in Herman and Grandpa. And at some point I need to pull the trigger on the classic Universal Monsters.

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I had the full set of 1:6 Silver Screen Universal Monsters in B&W from Sideshow, but a coworker/friend at the time who was a big fan and fellow figure collector begged me to sell them to him as he wanted them for his office. I caved and gave him a good price of the original retail I had paid, but he never paid me (next month - every time - even as he was adding expensive 1:6 stuff), and at some point I noticed they were no longer in his office - he sold them himself and claimed he had forgotten he hadn't paid me and had already spent the money so couldn't give me any of the proceeds - kind of ended that friendship as he was very much like "well, you can afford it" and not at all apologetic or acting like he had any obligation to me.
 
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I suspect this is accurate for "jump scare/spooky/supernatural" horror and slasher/serial killer horror fans, but I am less sure about the torture horror fans. The first two types work more on the adrenaline rush of the suspense of possible escape vs not escaping the situation/killer, and while they can have gore, it tends to be kind of quick. But things like Terrifier and Green Inferno and some of the torture porn stuff at times revels in lingering on the suffering and pain that the victims go though while being killed - there is an aspect of cruelty to it, at least to me, that I think might speak to some folks in a way that isn't healthy.

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Anyway, I too am waiting to see if they announce more Munsters before I go in Herman and Grandpa. And at some point I need to pull the trigger on the classic Universal Monsters.

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I had the full set of 1:6 Silver Screen Universal Monsters in B&W from Sideshow, but a coworker/friend at the time who was a big fan and fellow figure collector begged me to sell them to him as he wanted them for his office. I caved and gave him a good price of the original retail I had paid, but he never paid me (next month - every time - even as he was adding expensive 1:6 stuff), and at some point I noticed they were no longer in his office - he sold them himself and claimed he had forgotten he hadn't paid me and had already spent the money so couldn't give me any of the proceeds - kind of ended that friendship as he was very much like "well, you can afford it" and not at all apologetic or acting like he had any obligation to me.

I see what you mean. Every so often you'll have some nutjob who goes and commits a horrible crime and either they or the media claim "such and such movie made him do it". I tend to avoid the horror movies that just feel mean- they make me feel a little yucky. It's why I can't do the Devil's Rejects movies and such. There's a weird kind of heaviness to them and some other horror movies that I can't quite put my finger on or explain. But like I said, I can oddly have a figure of whatever horror mascot even if I hate the movie itself- I just got Art the Clown, and I do have the Captain Spaulding re-release, just because the mascot got more popular than the thing itself in some regard.

So sorry that happened to you with the friend. I know a lot of folks that have had something similar happen to them and had their kindness taken advantage of. I used to be similar, and after one too many times, I'm still happy to help others, but you gotta meet me halfway. Hopefully life will throw you a bone to make up for it. Definitely get the Universal Monsters Ultimates if you can; they're really fun, well-made figures that just make me so happy to see on my shelf. The accessory packs help bring them to life all the more.
 
I agree. NECA is also weird on what they will do from a property, and wildly inconsistent from one license to the next. They sometimes decide certain things will definitely sell, and arbitrarily decide others won't. They have repeatedly said they don't think a Nancy Thompson from A Nightmare on Elm St will sell...but they made an ultimate of older Laurie Strode. How does that make sense? Don't get me wrong...I was very happy they made Laurie from those films, but that's the only final girl they've bothered with. Wouldn't teenage Laurie make MORE sense? How does Nancy, one of the most iconic Final Girls ever, not merit a figure? This makes me concerned that they won't do Sienna Shaw from Terrifier 2, even though that look is a perfect one to get the figure treatment! Sienna is almost as popular as Art, and would likely do really well, but so far they haven't hinted of plans to make her.
I imagine the older Laurie was cheaper to do because her likeness was already part of the rights, as per most newer films, whereas older movies would require separate deals?
 
So if they were to do the entire family, who's likeness would y'all want for Marilyn? I presume most would want Priest, but would anyone prefer Owen?
 
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I don't believe in "torture porn" as a concept. I love gore in films, I admire the artistry of it. They're basically magic tricks, at least when they're not CG. Not saying it's for everyone, but I am saying I don't think it actually indicates all that much about a person if they don't instinctively react against it. For me, movies are movies. There's no part of me that mistakes and experiences them as anything close to reality, so I can't take them so much to heart that any of that stuff can bother me. The closest I can see is like some of the old Italian exploitation stuff where they have real on-screen animal violence.

I've done a fair amount of reading on why people like horror movies and content, and I never really find it that convincing or compelling. Usually I just shrug and say "close enough" to an old Stuart Gordon quote, the gist of which is that we're rehearsing our own deaths when we watch them.
 
So sorry that happened to you with the friend. .....
Appreciate it, not really a big deal, I felt more sorry for the guy - someone who couldn't really get himself together at times....

Definitely get the Universal Monsters Ultimates if you can; they're really fun, well-made figures that just make me so happy to see on my shelf. The accessory packs help bring them to life all the more.
The accessory packs are a big selling point, I just need to get them while I can.
 
Off topic but -


I suspect this is accurate for "jump scare/spooky/supernatural" horror and slasher/serial killer horror fans, but I am less sure about the torture horror fans. The first two types work more on the adrenaline rush of the suspense of possible escape vs not escaping the situation/killer, and while they can have gore, it tends to be kind of quick. But things like Terrifier and Green Inferno and some of the torture porn stuff at times revels in lingering on the suffering and pain that the victims go though while being killed - there is an aspect of cruelty to it, at least to me, that I think might speak to some folks in a way that isn't healthy.
Used to teach screenwriting and filmmaking in a basic Movie in a Day program to primary and secondary kids at the Toronto Film Festival Lightbox.

Part of it involves breaking the kids into groups and then they would pitch a movie to their little group and then after voting on one, write the script within their group. Then present that to every group and as a class they would vote on what they wanted to actually act and shoot in. It was very quick and dirty, but fun.

Anyway, one day we have this French immersion school come in. Fourth years.

One of the groups basically pitched a version of that French slasher High Tension.

One of them pitched Hostel.

One of them pitched a lesbian relationship drama between two children laborers in an African blood diamond mine.

One of them pitched movie about a. erotic awakening between two confused schoolgirls in the time of the Nazi occupation of Paris.

The teacher said this was perfectly normal and expected.

The rest of the program people were flipping out. If not for the content, we usually had "Let's remake Dark Knight" or "Let's do Rapunzel".

We did the High Tension murder torture one in the end, because it was a "cabin in the woods" budget movie, as all great horror films are.
 
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