Muppets (including The Muppet Show, Sesame Street, Fraggle Rock)

[PanchaMaestro]

So is he regular Grover too or not?

 

[scottg10]

So is he regular Grover too or not?

Regular Grover will be a separate release with Mr. Johnson.

 

[scottg10]

I ordered the Snowman from Kenny Durkin to test the waters. I ordered Monday, received him today, and I love it! I wish there was a little bit of articulation (swivel head at least), but I’m good either way. I still need to figure out the scarf, ordered some ribbon from Amazon that might work.

I’m going to order the two monsters next. I’m still on the fence about Bobo, I wish he was in a suit, but I’ll probably get him anyway.

 

[Bills all day]

In a Muppet discussion forum, someone posted that Trevor (from NECA) stated in a video that Boppity (Blue Frackle) was one of his favorite Muppets. This made me curious about the potential for reuse between the NECA Sesame Street and Muppets lines, since I think Boppity has essentially the same body as Grover. I was actually planning to buy an extra Grover to make a custom Boppity but may hold off, in case he is a surprise character later in the line.

I realize their might be too much case-by-case contingency for there to be any broad answers about reuse between lines, but I'm still curious about the collecting community's knowledge about the general topic. For example, now that most design work is digital, is there more grey area for what stage a design is locked into a certain line? Could NECA designers make generic felt hands that can be tweaked to use in either line? What about in-house vs contracted designers? Apologies, if this is too much of a legal discussion that's too boring for this forum.

Also, has anyone seen Super Grover in stores, yet? He's supposed to be available in stores starting this week, right?

 

[PanchaMaestro]

Isn't this the kind of discussion we should be having? Aren't we playing toy collecting at least the varsity level?

 

[fac]

I've always been curious about that, especially for a large company like Hasbro - why didn't they reuse arms, legs, etc. across brands. I believe as noted that the licensor actually owns the molds, so if the company loses a license or goes out of business the molds could be transferred by the licensor to a new company (essentially I think a version of this happened with ToyBiz to Hasbro for Legends, and I felt it happened with Batman TAS from Kenner to Mattel).

I would think in this case, they could probably work something out amongst the Henson stuff...

 

[scottg10]

I've always been curious about that, especially for a large company like Hasbro - why didn't they reuse arms, legs, etc. across brands. I believe as noted that the licensor actually owns the molds, so if the company loses a license or goes out of business the molds could be transferred by the licensor to a new company (essentially I think a version of this happened with ToyBiz to Hasbro for Legends, and I felt it happened with Batman TAS from Kenner to Mattel).

I would think in this case, they could probably work something out amongst the Henson stuff...

Yet you have Kenner back in the day who had no problem reusing parts across licenses. The entire Robin Hood line is reuse of other lines, the Batman line reused Silverhawks mechanisms, etc.

When Marvel moved to Hasbro, they made new 9” Marvel figures, but reusing the bodies that were originally used for the 9” DC Super Heroes line.

Then you had Mattel that would reuse MOTU stuff for DC, but not vice versa since Mattel owns MOTU but not DC.

I wonder if it is a license per license detail, or just an industry standard that has matured over time.

 

[Misfit]

I think it just depends on the license and maybe who actually owns the tools when all is said and done. We've seen Hasbro reuse the Starting Lineup stuff since that brand died and I'm guessing it's because the NBA had no interest in owning and storing tools for action figures. NECA reused its DC hero bodies for Flash Gordon, but not concurrently, so that could be a component too. I don't think Hasbro has ever reused tools across its Disney stuff which tells me the Disney licenses are probably pretty strict about such things.

 

[fac]

I wish that the assorted "toy influencers" actually asked some of these questions and got into the weeds about the business constraints.

 

[scottg10]

Made my best attempt at fashioning a scarf for the Snowman. It isn’t entirely accurate, but I’m happy with it.

Also go three of the Super 7 international Big Birds off of eBay at a reasonable price, at, least by Super 7 standards. Unfortunately, the green one is apparently 1 per case and I haven’t even seen it on eBay yet, so I’m guessing that one is going to be expensive when it does show up. I can’t overstate how much I hate blind boxes…


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[RichardSimmonsRobot]

I've talked myself into getting at least Super Grover if I can manage it. He will be too much fun to shove into random displays.

 

[TheGillMan]

I'm sure it all depends on the specific licenses and what-not, but I do know NECA has reused parts for unrelated lines. The buck for the various Michael Myers figures has been reused for the My Bloody Valentine and Thanksgiving figures, and parts of the Cheryl figure in the Evil Dead two-pack were reused for Pamela Voorhees. Guess it just depends on the specific contracts NECA has with Children's Television Workshop and Henson/Disney.

 

[fac]

I'm more interested in the letters S and G than Super Grover himself, as I will ultimately likely just display Grover un-Supered.

 

[PantherCult]

So.. I (well my wife) have the Palisades Super Grover alraedy and am trying to decide if I get the NECA version or just wait and get the regular Grover release later.

She prefers her Grover un-super, but loves all iterations of Grover more than anything else in pop culture.

 

[NORM]

I have Palisades Super Grover and I’m getting the NECA one and putting the old one in the trench coat disguise.