Mattel DC Figures

I loved DCUC. Bought everything. My extended Justice League and extended Legion of Doom are still on display in my mancave.
I HATED the Rainbow Lantern wave. It should have been the actual Lanterns - Arisia, Larfleeze, Bleeze, Saint Walker, Iroque, etc.
I LOVED the Super Friends figures. I'm glad we got them all before the line folded.
I was prepared to shift to McFarlane to add to my collection of missing DCUC figures.
Only got a very small handful. The size/scale difference just irritated me too much.
If McFarlane had kept the same size as DCUC, I probably would have bought everything that DCUC didn't make.
I hope the new DC line is compatible with the DCUC line in scale. If so, I'll definitely be picking up some characters missing in my collection.
However, I have no intention of rebuying everything.
 
scottg10 said:
Thanks, I appreciate the insight. It was mainly a question of curiosity, it was so long ago and Neitlich is long gone, so it doesn't really matter at this point. I know corporations tend to repeat the same mistakes over and over, but hopefully they've learned enough since then to not to let one man's ego tank an entire product line.
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No problem.
The whole point of even bringing up Scott was really to illustrate that... he's gone. So there's no need, YET, to hang a lot of his bad decisions on Mattel as a whole and act like the Mattel of 2012 is the Mattel of 2026. I've said in my comments about Mattel previously, in this thread and others, that the company is still absolutely festering with morons that WILL make terrible decisions if given the chance to do so. They're as far from a perfect toy company as you can get without being like.. Super7 or something. But there's a lot of great people there that genuinely want to make great toys and who are active toy collectors themselves. They get it. They know what we want.
It's just gonna be about who wins more often.


mrboshek said:
I was trying to remember what the story was behind Johns involvement. I came across this link, but of course the fwoosh is down so I can't get the whole retelling or find out who made the post.
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One of the ways Scott sucked up to Johns was to let him create one of the 30th Ann. figures which was basically advertised as a 'fan creation' wave but ended up mostly being vanity projects. It was how they got out the Fearless Photog figure that never got made in the vintage line despite the kid winning the contest.
Anyway.. that was the line where Scott dumped his time-travel Deadpool rip-off 'create-a-character' into MOTU lore (Mighty Spector). 4H got to make a dragon dude. And Geoff Johns gave us 'Sir Laser-Lot.'

I have no idea what Scott was supposed to get out of sucking up to Johns besides an action figure in DCUC that no one bought, but whatever it was I don't think he got it since he does not work for or around DC Comics and is practically jobless.


mrboshek said:
My interest fell off a cliff after that Lantern wave.
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You and TONS of other collectors, apparently. It was even mentioned internally, from what I heard, as the moment collectors stopped feeling like Mattel was listening to them. You can get away with ignoring a lot from your consumer-base if they at least feel like you're listening and you care. The moment they feel like you don't give a shit what they want, you've lost them. Even Mattel, famously idiots, knows that.
 
Ugh. I bought the Rainbow Lanterns wave with extreme prejudice because I was insanely all-in to DCUC and also wanted the Anti-Monitor (such as he was, sigh). But boy was I pissed, and I say that as someone who legitimately loved the Super Powers/SuperFriends stuff. Rainbow Lanterns really did feel like the falling-off point, and nothing was ever the same after that. I really did think they were going to start getting their shit together right before they lost the license, but things were so uneven and nonsensical even then.
 
I know if I was in charge of this DC line I would mirror some deep cuts and the regulars that McFarlane had did and show the DC fans and McFarlane this is how it's done and you really couldn't compete except for your vehicles.
 
Xavion2025 said:
I’m glad you said that, because it’s given me some much needed perspective on my own posts. If the figures are good, I’m going to be on board in some capacity. I’m making myself out to be much more difficult than I am by presenting things I’d like to see as demands.
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I always try to keep in mind that the most passionate (and autistic) nerds on the planet love whining and nitpicking, and will always be whining and nitpicking. Excluding very obvious bad faith exceptions and echo chamber meme hating, most people I've seen complain do it out of a hardcore love for something. It's very easy to lose sight of this at times.

I've also recently learned that toy guys will buy basically anything if they have even the vaguest familiarity with it and the figures are actually good. If the only loud and consistent complaints about your toyline are "Hey, why the HELL don't we have this character?!", you're doing good. That's not even complaining, that's just asking for more product.
 
Niko (protozoalord) said:
I always try to keep in mind that the most passionate (and autistic) nerds on the planet love whining and nitpicking, and will always be whining and nitpicking. Excluding very obvious bad faith exceptions and echo chamber meme hating, most people I've seen complain do it out of a hardcore love for something. It's very easy to lose sight of this at times.

I've also recently learned that toy guys will buy basically anything if they have even the vaguest familiarity with it and the figures are actually good. If the only loud and consistent complaints about your toyline are "Hey, why the HELL don't we have this character?!", you're doing good. That's not even complaining, that's just asking for more product.
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Also worth noting as an addendum that even those extremely loud complainers that hate everything - buy all of it. They buy it and then tell you how much it all sucks.
 
So the thing about that Rainbow Lantern wave, and saying this as a massive fan of the GL book at that time, was that it could almost have been forgiven if they had done actual Lanterns... Atrocitus, Larfleeze, Saint Walker, Indigo-1 instead of the Super Hero counterparts. But indigo Atom, Blue Lantern Flash, Violet Wonder Woman... those choices were bad even for someone like me. It was no wonder the line lost all momentum at that point. And then to have to subscribe to a year's worth of mail away figures to get Atrocitus and Larfleeze was super annoying.
 
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