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For what it's worth, when I was talking about the "anti-woke" comments I specifically remember they were much more about that 0.5 second gay kiss than racial diversity specifically. However, I think that most of Hollywood and especially Disney have been targets of the "anti-woke" movement to a large degree. It's become completely normal for things to get blatantly review bombed by people not even watching them.

I liked, but didn't love this movie - but I'm also far less critical than most. I'm just looking for a couple hours of entertainment. There are very few movies that I've watched that I've hated, or I probably never would have been interested in watching them in the first place. If it's comic based, I'm probably almost always going to enjoy it as a 1-time watch, and I almost never watch anything a second time regardless of how I feel about it. I personally basically only watch comic book and sci-fi movies, and mostly completely avoid all other genres because they hold very little interest for me. When I watch something, I do so to escape reality for a bit -- so I like it to be as fantastical and unrealistic as possible. This movie mostly fit that criteria for me.
 
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Agree, it doesn't surprise me at all that Eternals is as divisive as it is because it's a story about [something else] using Marvel superheroes as its cast. I understood what story Zhao was telling and I was into it, I thought it was subversive and interesting commentary on organized religion/idol worship/disease/family dynamics that breakdown as a result of those things but I completely get someone being like "This isn't what I signed up for coming to see an MCU movie." It did remind me of the Eternals comic runs I love though, like Gaiman's and Gillen's that use the characters the same way. I will say, the sex scene was stiff and terrible.
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I think I get why people like it. And I definitely understood the meta of what they were going for. I just genuinely didn't think it was good. It can have all the greatest intentions ever, that won't make it automatically a good film. I think it's a very bad film with a lot of potential, I think is the best way to say it (from my perspective).

Also, I have a MAD fucking hate for the idea that humans are basically worthless and had to be given some of our most important achievements/inventions. Nah, humans suck and if not for Phastos we probably couldn't have figured out the wheel or how to make bronze. It's like this shit was written by the "Aliens" guy from the History Channel. Human ingenuity? Nope. Aliens did it. Fuck off. That being said, more intelligent people than me have written entire treatises online about why the movie is bad. You'll never convince someone to not like a movie they like - nor should you. And you probably won't convince anyone to like it that doesn't already (although it's probably more likely).

I don't care at all that some people like/love the movie. I think that's great. Someone made it. It's nice that someone enjoys it.
 
I also honestly found it boring. And I was high as balls when I watched it. I was passing out near the end. It had a great cast and a nice story, but it just... didn't click? For me. The best part imo was the speed chick fight scenes. Everything else, meh. I saw it once, doubt I will watch it again. There are a couple mcu films like that now.

I enjoyed the Marvels. It wasn't amazing, but it was fun.

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I liked Eternals for the most part. I liked the characters. Most of my favorite characters didn’t survive the movie, so that was disappointing. I thought the fight scenes were engaging. Ikaris, Thena, and Makkari were particularly cool in combat. I liked the Deviants as well, but they probably should have gotten more personality.

Tie-in, but I loved the What If? Eternals and Agatha episode. Really made me like Kingo.


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That What If? episode was insane. Like, Kingo and Agatha in Old Hollywood? W.T.F. But in a good way?

I think the cast didn't have enough chemistry. Individually, all are good actors, but as a group, no chemistry. I didn't care to see them reunite and when they did they even seemed bored by it. Thena is literally sleepwalking through half the movie, Sprite is just not great, Gilgamesh is kinda a nothing, everyone hates on Druig but he was kinda right? Did they even care that they ended up being robots? I can't remember.

I agree with Damien - rewriting human history and then having the Earth be a giant egg - way to undermine your own universe for literally no upside.

I hope when the MCU eventually ends (before a reboot) Arishem shows and just wipes everyone out. You have been judged worthless.

On the Superman/woke front, if James Gunn hadn't made that one comment about Superman being an immigrant *before* the movie's release that shit wouldn't have happened. Not that that comment should be inflammatory or muzzled, but if he had just waited til audiences had seen the movie and connected with the movie and if they made that connection they'd already know and if they didn't and it was pointed out to them, it would have way more impact in the realization.
 
I adore the Eternals, but it never did feel like it belonged in the MCU. I love it as a rumination on what it means to love humanity despite our flaws. What someone who lives forever would think of us and our short, violent, beautiful lives. It’s not a comic book movie, it’s a philosophical one, and man I know why folks don’t like it but it’s one of the few Marvel movies I’ve thought about long after seeing it. I thought it was flawed but heartbreaking.

Gillen’s run on Eternals is great, too. What does it mean when you are a living being who was never meant to be more than the archetype some old and negligent god told you you were, and what does it mean when you can’t die, but neither can you ever win.

I love the Eternals the way I like Greek myths. Immortals are scared and horny and flawed and beautiful, just like humanity.
 
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