Last Movie Watched

Saw Avatar Fire and Ash. Part two again. That pretty much sums it up. It’s odd to see James Cameron not advance the story. It is visually very interesting and seeing life on Pandora is interesting. I could watch them interact with wild life and makes their wares for a hour or so. This had a bunch of action thrown in too to make ot 3 hours. I’m still kind of shaking my head. He has two more movies? I’m not seeing you James Cameron.

Thwipp!
 
There can still be surprises on some level, though. I think it's fair to differentiate a major plot twist surprise or a sudden multiverse unveiling with another franchise surprise from the 'I didn't expect the fight scene to look like that' or 'I didn't expect John to get his ass kicked so badly by that guy' kind of surprise. If you can see every moment coming, I don't think a movie (or book, or show) will be satisfying. You want something there you didn't know was going to happen, even if that thing isn't massively relevant to the final product (like John cutting his finger off... didn't see that coming but also it didn't REALLY matter either).
Yeah that's fair, I definitely hope the method of executing the plot I know is happening will have some flare to it. Either it'll be notably stylish or understated or just obviously well considered and edited. I don't usually try to predict to that level of granularity, but I definitely don't like it when I feel like I'm waiting on the characters to move a plot along.
 
Last edited:
Yeah that's fair, I definitely hope for the method of executing the plot I know is happening will have some flare to it. Either it'll be notably stylish or understated or just obviously well considered and edited. I don't usually try to predict to that level of granularity, but I definitely don't like it when I feel like I'm waiting on the characters to move a plot along.
Definitely. I don't want to feel like I'm waiting for plot to happen, but I also don't want to be able to pause the show every ten minutes and recite the next ten minutes with 90% accuracy. I'll almost always be able to run down a show or movie's major bullet points from start to finish within the first third or less. That's just 'stories following story formulas.' But you gotta DO something with that time or you're wasting mine.
 
I don't mind spoilers, personally. There's certainly some things that I go into not wanting to be spoiled- if it means a lot to me, then I'll avoid, but otherwise, if I get spoiled, it's no biggy. Seeing how it plays out is just as interesting as what plays out. But I do agree that it's getting a bit exhausting when it feels like every single big budget movie needs not just one twist or cameo, but multiple. They have to keep one upping themselves. It went from feeling like a kid playing with their toys and mashing them together to now feeling like a kid dumping their entire toybox out and trying to make a story out of all the varying properties. You have Batman mixing with Spidey mixing with Alien mixing with GI Joe, etc. On one hand it's cool the first time or two- definitely like a live action comic, with all the various characters intermingling, which is fun. But then you start to rewatch it, and the "nudge nudge wink wink" of it all feels more apparent- the obvious pauses for applause being perhaps the most egregious.

I'm not saying I want them to stop. Again, it's cool seeing all these beloved characters coming together like we dreamed of as kids, but it needs to feel a bit more streamlined and purposeful. Just throwing in characters for the hell of it, for a momentary rush of nostalgia that lessens with each viewing. I think more effort should be put into the long-form opinion of the film and allowing it to hold up, rather than just the initial reaction from getting a butt in a theater seat. Not everything needs to have a crazy long legacy, but I don't know if everything should feel so disposable either.

Saw Avatar Fire and Ash. Part two again. That pretty much sums it up. It’s odd to see James Cameron not advance the story. It is visually very interesting and seeing life on Pandora is interesting. I could watch them interact with wild life and makes their wares for a hour or so. This had a bunch of action thrown in too to make ot 3 hours. I’m still kind of shaking my head. He has two more movies? I’m not seeing you James Cameron.

Thwipp!

I probably liked the movie more than most- not enough to get post-Avatar depression, but enough to be enamored with the world- but I don't necessarily disagree. It felt like it hit a lot of the same beats as Way of Water, just a bit better (in my opinion). Almost like James wanted to redo WoW and fix some mistakes. I know it was supposedly envisioned as one film, but I don't know at what point it was split- script, editing, whatever. FaA has some elements I enjoy more- Varang, the various tribes actually doing something, the heavier, more meaningful character moments. It does kinda feel like you could skip maybe half or more of WoW and not really lose anything, since a lot of the same beats are there again. For as much as I enjoyed it, I do hope that the story progresses a bit in the next one. I'm all for pausing for character progression, but I still want to end in a more apparent different place than before.
 
Definitely. I don't want to feel like I'm waiting for plot to happen, but I also don't want to be able to pause the show every ten minutes and recite the next ten minutes with 90% accuracy. I'll almost always be able to run down a show or movie's major bullet points from start to finish within the first third or less. That's just 'stories following story formulas.' But you gotta DO something with that time or you're wasting mine.
I think we've been getting into some useful territory about good stories setting up and then subverting expectations rather than just doing worldbuilding surprises or big twist reveals (the latter has its place, but like we've said, can't be an expectation without diminishing the impact). And you can have a wildly popular film series take that first option instead!

Significant plot elements in the Benoit Blanc films aren't just about playing with detective story tropes, they're also about playing with the tropes that Johnson has taught the audience to expect from a Benoit Blanc story. That makes something like the conclusion to Wake Up Dead Man so satisfying to me despite the fact that it's undercutting an expected and enjoyable part of a Blanc conclusion; it's doing something meaningful with the change it's making in its formula while also reinforcing our understanding of Blanc's virtues.

Godzilla Minus One having the military back off because of geopolitical pressure and leaving it up to the civilians to deal with Godzilla, that's upending a huge series convention in a really meaningful way because of how the change interacts with and amplifies the film's critical deconstruction of patriotic self-sacrifice. That means way more than if they had had Samuel L. Jackson show up and say, "I'm putting together a team to keep the world safe the next time All Monsters Attack. Are you in?" and Godzilla be like, "SKREEONK." Even though I think I just talked myself into that scenario.
 
Just watched The Housemaid.

I thought it might be a trashy but fun horror in the vein of The Boy, but
turned out it was cartoonishly stupid feminist revenge porn. Entertaining in points but boring in others, and the stars are both way better than the material.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Just watched The Housemaid.

I thought it might be a trashy but fun horror in the vein of The Boy, but
turned out it was cartoonishly stupid feminist revenge porn. Entertaining in points but boring in others, and the stars are both way better than the material.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Ha! Those were features for me, not bugs.

My wife and I saw it last night, we had an absolute blast. Seyfreid and the guy were great, Sweeney was a weak link acting wise but well cast so it wasn’t that bad.
I did remark to my wife after the Big Sexy Scene that the dude actually had the superior naked chest, she wholeheartedly agreed.
🤣
 
Back
Top