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When they first announced ninja zartan i wasnt interested. now that he's sold out and i've seen images of him, i kinda want him, I'd just treat him as some other Dreadnok, cause he got a good look
 
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Is it really. I don't remember that at all.
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Yep, in the Hama/Marvel comics storyline, Zartan’s Ninja Force look was what he predominantly looked like after he had worked through his guilt and personal demons re: the murder of the Hard Master, made some amends to Storm Shadow, and stopped working for Cobra. By the end of the Hama run, Zartan, Destro, Baroness AND Storm Shadow had *all* reformed, but eventually the Brainwave Scanner was used to retcon—er, I mean to make them bad again.
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I feel like dropping the Joe comic when I did, issue 115 or shortly thereafter, was a good thing for my fandom.

And yeah, I think they did a really good job with NF Zartan. Wish the pants were a bit more dark but they're not outrageously green.

Not having hot pink weapons also helps a great deal.
 
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Zartan’s face turn was pretty organic over the course of the series: actually all the face turns pretty much were.
The later years of the comic get a bad rap because of the mandated use of them-current “neon 90s” character designs, but the stories were solid.
 
I don't think I ever knew about Zartan reforming but definitely agree it was clearly something Hama was building toward. Showing his side of the whole Hard Master situation and how much he really got into making swords with his master despite it being a ploy all along, then betraying that master etc etc, then impersonating the Blind Master for that kid... He was still scum but you could see he wanted to try.
 
I found it pretty profound as a kid that Zartan could seek redemption, and was also very much blown away that Storm Shadow was *never* an *actual* villain, merely posing as one to get revenge for the death of his uncle, and yet willing to do villainous things to pursue that end. Destro being rigorously honorable and yet totally morally grey was fascinating too: he never actually “reformed” so much as he was led by his unique ethical code to everywhere he went, and most of where he went was about his devotion to the Baroness.
 
Why was Zartan devoted to Baroness? I’ve never read the comics, but this is the first time I’ve ever heard of that relationship.
 
canprime said:
How about Hasbro give us a French national Joe to join the team and he comes with a "pet".........the Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey!!!!! :ROFLMAO:

That would have been funnier years ago before France became more of a stand tall country compared to the US.
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Exactly. You have to respect France in that regard. If a boss there cuts PTO from 4 months to like 3.75, the French will burn the building to the ground. In the U.S., ICE will murder a protester in cold blood and 30% of us are like, "yeah! That's what we get for exercising our civil rights. FAFO, us!"
 
Has anyone read G.I. Joe: Sierra Muerte by Michel Fiffe? I haven't read enough of the Hama comics, I think I'm still in that early establishing period for a lot of the characters and it's the accumulation of lore and character details where it probably grows the best? But Fiffe's miniseries made a lot of these characters real to me pretty instantly.
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The green thing in that last panel is representing a tracking signal, the next page shows that Baroness has been followed there.)
 
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Yeah it’s weird:
Zartan has a daughter (at least in 21st century continuity) and yet I cannot pick out a time when he was ever romantically or sexually interested in anyone, ever.
 
secondwhiteline said:
Has anyone read G.I. Joe: Sierra Muerte by Michel Fiffe? I haven't read enough of the Hama comics, I think I'm still in that early establishing period for a lot of the characters and it's the accumulation of lore and character details where it probably grows the best? But Fiffe's miniseries made a lot of these characters real to me pretty instantly.
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The green thing in that last panel is representing a tracking signal, the next page shows that Baroness has been followed there.)
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It's good stuff, but I have to be in the mood for Fiffe. Copra is like... Too slavishly devoted to Ostrander Squad in a detrimental way to me.

But his Joe project was an interesting experimentation. Reminded me a lot of those '90s book anthologies where people would revisit Batman with really left field approaches that show how broad the material can be.
 
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