Fwoosh Toys/Articulated Icons - A Retrospective

@TENIME

My man.

Let me tell you a little something about myself that I don't divulge much: I have had a life that not many people would be able to stomach.

I grew up with a mentally handicapped sister. From an early age, I have had to take care of her. Which, on its surface, fine...we've all had to take care of family.

But when I was 7 years old, my uncle, my mother's brother, committed suicide. My mother lost her mind as a result. She cheated on my father during this time period. Multiple times with multiple men.

My father, grief stricken, trying to find my missing mother, would take us out at 2-3 in the morning to the house of the man that she ultimately left my Dad for. He did it to get answers, but brought us to make sure he wouldn't leave us home alone--something my mother didn't care about, by the way, because she would abandon me and my sister for hours, days on end. Just disappear without a clue where she went, no numbers memorized to call anyone to get help.

Anyway...yes, our 3 AM trips to "Brian's" house...

Regardless, not something a child should ever witness, but I don't blame my father for that. He was lost in his head because my mother was out doing God knows what, leaving him to deal with the aftermath of not only the loss of his brother in law, but now an adulterous wife, and continuously traumatized children.

I had to listen to screaming matches, the walls being punched, I ran into the bathroom and fell to my knees, begging my father not to stab my mother, only to realize that I was begging him not to plunge the knife into his own chest.

Now, my mother. She was abusive. Couldn't tell you the amount of fingers in my face, backings into walls, slaps, ear pulls, hits, etc. that I had to endure. She would have bouts where she talk to me as if I were her dead brother. And in between that, she was paranoid and would tell us that the Lebanese mafia killed her brother, and that they threatened her if she didn't stop talking about it, and mentioned specifically that they would kill me and my sister--so, I walked around with that fear. And of course, the aforementioned disappearances.

Oh, and should I mention the two times my sister up and ran away while no one was home?

All of this before I was the age of 10. And that is but a sampling of shit.

I am a broken man, to this day. I live with depression and anxiety, panic attacks. I was diagnosed clinically with PTSD. We aren't talking "Aw man, I have PTSD from the service at this restaurant". I'm talking full blown, 'Nam like PTSD. I have God awful abandonment issues. And I'm sure all of this contributes to the things I spoke about previously with my temper, my need to control things, my trust issues...

I could hate everyone and everything and I think be totally justified in it. Especially if you knew even half of my life, you'd understand that being cynical would be too many people's only option.

And that's not to downplay my headspace. I am fucked up. I am. My wife constantly says she's surprised I'm not more fucked up than I am, when she hears some of the things I went through. I hear about her childhood and her upbringing and I get jealous because I think "Oh, that's how a mother SHOULD be, I guess. Oh, you didn't get hit upside the head for not liking the soup she made?"

But the thing is, I still TRY. I try every single day to make sure that I don't let these things dictate who I am or how I'm going to treat or view people. I'm not going to fall back on those things as excuses for why I react a certain way, because ultimately at some point, I have to take responsibility for it. Yes, my mother, my upbringing contributed to the many things I have wrong with me--but at 43 years old, I can not keep giving myself a pass for that. At some point, I have to work on myself and stop taking pity on myself and try to fix ME. Instead of pointing my fingers at all of these external factors.

And I STILL to this day try to work on my relationship with my mother. After all of that, I still try. It's not great, she continuously says and does abhorrent, hateful things and it makes me step away and break contact for a while. But I always make the effort to reach out, because one day, I won't have a mother and I do remember the good times in between the bads.

But at the end of the day, I can only control how I handle things. I can only control how I speak to others, and how I treat folks.

The responsibility lies on you, my friend.
 
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I will say here that I wish we would stop propping up the Fwoosh forums. I know 99% of us don't still post there, but Paul doesn't deserve ad money from our views or clicks. Let the place die. As I've said since we started over here on AT, the Fwoosh is not a place, it is people and the people are here. Paul and the Fwoosh will fall into the category that Dorkside and Megalopolis/Premium DNA are in and I don't want anything to do with that. So for anyone that is still posting there, consider letting it die. Hit Paul where it hurts, in his wallet.
I believe that's what obfuscates the issue and leaves to some of the confusion in other discourses I've seen about this.

For over a decade I think we can all agree. Robo was the face of the Fwoosh thanks to YouTube. Which is an entirely different generation and breed of collector.

Many of them were unaware of the forums let alone the news site.

Company venture traded on that branding, but there are still people if you cruise other channels who think Robo was involved. But nobody who writes on the news page has any involvement. Nobody on the forums had any involvement. It all shares the same name but I even felt the forums and the news page were so disconnected compared to how many modern websites incorporate comment systems with their news.

And all the while nobody knows everything is just kicking back up to this guy who wasn't even an actual participant of the community. At least not on the level the faces of the company are.

I have seen people say that Robo leaving even means he took the money and ran, as example.
 
Yeah there was an entirely different comment section on the news articles that didn't even link up with the forums. It was all very disconnected. All I know is Paul said he would keep the forums up as long as it made financial sense to do so and I just don't think he deserves the ad clicks. The forum is definitely on life support but there is still a One-a-Day thread going over there like the one we have here in the Marvel forums. That is about the only activity aside from an occasional stray post in another thread.
 
This thread needs some Puppy Power
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Haha, that's one of my biggest peeves with video content, and it always seems to be the YouTubers. You can edit. You can do other takes.

Why do I need you to apologize that your dog walked into the room and then hear you messing with it. I know that old YouTube loved the authenticity and real moments but it's not for me.

I agree with the editing. Our channel is intended to highlight the AuDHD'ness of ourselves, so we don't script anything and we try to not over-edit so that the point of our channel stands out, but sometimes you just have to cut shit out lol

When I review a figure, it's literally the first time I've touched it so the viewer and I are seeing it for the first time together. Zero scripting. But during the post process, I'll every now and then come across a section of a video that is either too quiet or it's full of "ums/ahs/and uh, and uh..." and you just have to cut that shit out. If I'm doing size comparisons and everything falls over, set them up and start again.

You can be authentic and natural and still have a polished product. It doesn't have to be all flies and dog cameos (although, sometimes dogs are fun to see, who doesn't like dogs you monster? :p)
 
Does that mean borrowed molds? Does that mean an actual investment and collaboration? Did they buy the molds and are just giving credit? Nobody knows. Everybody has opinions.
Why doesn't someone just email BBTS and ask them?
I mean, I can do it if no one else wants to. IDGAF.


I will say here that I wish we would stop propping up the Fwoosh forums. I know 99% of us don't still post there, but Paul doesn't deserve ad money from our views or clicks. Let the place die. As I've said since we started over here on AT, the Fwoosh is not a place, it is people and the people are here. Paul and the Fwoosh will fall into the category that Dorkside and Megalopolis/Premium DNA are in and I don't want anything to do with that. So for anyone that is still posting there, consider letting it die. Hit Paul where it hurts, in his wallet.
I agree with this. That sucks to say, because I adore Matt and Benty and clearly they still have some passion for keeping Fwoosh going. But that site now gets like 10 posts a day and 8 of them are from people that also post here. I think it makes more sense to consolidate. But also I get -I- may be seen as having a vested interest in saying that so... do what you want, people.



Okay, but now dad's home.

@TENIME @RicksNerdLife -- BW already nicely asked that we move this back to specific topics not related to each other or other personalities in the space. He's a Mod. The nicest of the Mods, in fact. Respect what he asks, please.
I think you're both coming from a well-meaning place, but this isn't the spot to hash that out. Do it in PM if you want to continue. If you feel like you need someone to watch you hash it out for whatever reason, include me in a group PM and I'll help you out. But we gotta get it off the public boards at this point.
Anything on this line of discussion after my post is just getting deleted.
 
I will say that these sorts of discussions are always destined to devolve into these sorts of things. We just mulch over the same stuff ad nauseum to where it kind of derails into grievances on related topics or people somewhat related, or even just if someone mentions the other person.

People are upset, people are looking for someone to point a finger at--end of the day, there is only one person posting to LinkedIn "I am Fwoosh" like a dickhead. The buck stops there.
 
We just mulch over the same stuff ad nauseum to where it kind of derails into grievances on related topics or people somewhat related, or even just if someone mentions the other person.
100%. But when it starts to derail into people being legitimately upset and comparing trauma, sometimes it may be better to pull back a little bit and let it breathe. We can come back later and argue about whether Fwoosh Ninja were ever actually good figures, or were just given far too much grace by a community that had a lot of love for the people involved.
 
3POA is an acquired taste, but the copycats and peripheral personalities are too overly negative for it to work.

Like not every hasbro figure is bad, nor is every decision they make evil or meant to rip off collectors. Even Bobby and Laserpants are usually complimentary of some hasbro products and indifferent to most


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I agree with the editing. Our channel is intended to highlight the AuDHD'ness of ourselves, so we don't script anything and we try to not over-edit so that the point of our channel stands out, but sometimes you just have to cut shit out lol

When I review a figure, it's literally the first time I've touched it so the viewer and I are seeing it for the first time together. Zero scripting. But during the post process, I'll every now and then come across a section of a video that is either too quiet or it's full of "ums/ahs/and uh, and uh..." and you just have to cut that shit out. If I'm doing size comparisons and everything falls over, set them up and start again.

You can be authentic and natural and still have a polished product. It doesn't have to be all flies and dog cameos (although, sometimes dogs are fun to see, who doesn't like dogs you monster? :p)
I've watched some and I think you have a good balance of authentic and production. You also have something to say. A lot of people just sit in front of the mic and scrape for it, even when it's a review.
 
I believe that's what obfuscates the issue and leaves to some of the confusion in other discourses I've seen about this.

For over a decade I think we can all agree. Robo was the face of the Fwoosh thanks to YouTube. Which is an entirely different generation and breed of collector.

Many of them were unaware of the forums let alone the news site.

Company venture traded on that branding, but there are still people if you cruise other channels who think Robo was involved. But nobody who writes on the news page has any involvement. Nobody on the forums had any involvement. It all shares the same name but I even felt the forums and the news page were so disconnected compared to how many modern websites incorporate comment systems with their news.

And all the while nobody knows everything is just kicking back up to this guy who wasn't even an actual participant of the community. At least not on the level the faces of the company are.

I have seen people say that Robo leaving even means he took the money and ran, as example.
Wasn't Robo there from the beginning? I think I remember seeing something where he was working with the other guy on testing the site and Youtube channel. I'm not 100% sure on that though. However I think he might have become more the face of The Fwoosh, but I don't think he was just a hired hand in the beginning.

Either way it clearly ended in a fog and Robo and Veebs probably got out at a good time.
 
3POA is an acquired taste, but the copycats and peripheral personalities are too overly negative for it to work.

Like not every hasbro figure is bad, nor is every decision they make evil or meant to rip off collectors. Even Bobby and Laserpants are usually complimentary of some hasbro products and indifferent to most


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I tried to watch it for a little while and it just became a regular negativity show. After awhile it became tiresome. The final straw was the hypocrisy of their constant attacks and then they all end up working for Bobby Vala in his booth at some con. The ultimate shill move by a group who liked to bash others for their supposed fan service to companies.
 
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