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What's to stop them from just sticking the proposed non-Sonja heads on a female wizard body and cloak and just claiming she's a pyromancer sorceress? Would she them sued by the Game of Thrones folks for having a redheaded sorceress? Then folks can just stick that head on WHATEVER body they feel like?
 
What's to stop them from just sticking the proposed non-Sonja heads on a female wizard body and cloak and just claiming she's a pyromancer sorceress? Would she them sued by the Game of Thrones folks for having a redheaded sorceress? Then folks can just stick that head on WHATEVER body they feel like?
Yeah, nothing is stopping them from putting that head with another figure. And I'm positive they'll do exactly that at some point.
 
Felt a little bad about my "god infinite Batman projects would be so boring" but I realized it's because nobody's stopping you from doing that now. I created a character someone called "ballerina Batman" and she got enough traction to have people cosplaying her. Nobody's stopping writers from telling stories about philanthropists dressing up in a costume to fight clowns.

Hell, I was opening up Rising Sons last night and I actually regretted getting some of the villains, I mostly wanted the barbarians and dwarves, but Skapular - like, you don't need a Skeletor knockoff when you've got an undead egomaniacal psychopath who dresses up as a rich merchant to RUN AN ASSASSINS GUILD while riding a black UNICORN. Suddenly Skapular is one of my favorite figures. This guy is nuts and I love him. You can do something new inspired by something someone else wrote. Why do a Red Sonja knockoff when you can make your own horny, smelly, violent chick in a chainmail bikini?

To be fair, it's not just viewers/readers. Studio executives refuse to take a chance on anything anymore.

You're going to have to break a few eggs to make the next Terminator omelet.
This is true, but also, they put money where audiences will spend money. Studios are only buying IPs with a big existing audience now so that they can spend less on marketing. Publishing will cancel a trilogy if the first book doesn't PREORDER enough copies. It sucks out here.

2-Our celebrity likeness this time was a little too on the nose (pun intended because the nose gave it away) Neve is known other than the one, the only ADEL NAZEEM!!!! (Idina Menzel if you’re naughty!) So she LITERALLY is a Barbarian Queen Elsa
I did not see this til you said it and now I do see it and I can't unsee it.

I was going to say "those arms, though" but it just occurred to me the muscle mommy arms are parts reuse from Cosmic Legions. Which is fine, but I went from "nice to see some new parts" to "oops not new."
 
Kulan Gath first appeared in Conan 14 from Marvel (Alongside Elric coincidentally enough.) so, I think he would be associated more with Conan than Red Sonja, unless there is a connection between them I am unaware of. Though I wonder if Moorecock could lay claim to him because of them appearing in comics together for the first time. Probably not.
Kulan Gath was a foe to both Conan and Red Sonja, though his first appearance was in Conan #14, as you noted. He faced off against both of them several times, with them usually teaming up to fight him (at one point, Conan beheaded Gath while Sonja cut his heart out!). I'd say he became associated with Sonja more due to Marvel Team-Up #79, where Spider-Man and a Sonja-possessed Mary Jane fought him. Dynamite has since featured Kulan Gath in their main Red Sonja series, as well as a crossover with Marvel that reunited her with Spidey.

I kind of think of Kulan Gath as being similar to the Kingpin in the Marvel Universe. A case can be made he is a Spider-Man villain first and foremost, but many associate him more with Daredevil.
 
I tell ya, it was a real trip reading an old X-Men run recently and finding a whole story event where he suddenly shows up out of nowhere, takes over Manhattan for a couple of months, changing everyone in it into Hyborean style versions, and Selene assembles a crew to stop him. Plus his hate on for Spider-Man was wild.

I kinda miss crazy stuff like that just happening low key.
 
I tell ya, it was a real trip reading an old X-Men run recently and finding a whole story event where he suddenly shows up out of nowhere, takes over Manhattan for a couple of months, changing everyone in it into Hyborean style versions, and Selene assembles a crew to stop him. Plus his hate on for Spider-Man was wild.

I kinda miss crazy stuff like that just happening low key.
I remember reading that when the issues first released, and I cannot tell you how freaking cool it was at the time. While Marvel Team Up #79 was a fan favorite issue, and had been reprinted in a trade at least once at that point, it still wasn't something I ever expected them to revisit...let alone go batshit crazy with it like they did. At the time we didn't get a bunch of information about books months in advance like we do now...that story arc began and my reaction was "holy shit"!

I also miss those out-of-left-field, can't-believe-they-went-there type of stories Marvel used to do. Claremont was especially great at that. I still remember the absolute insanity of having Kitty Pryde switch bodies with Baron Karza in the X-Men/Micronauts mini-series! Good stuff!
 
Kulan Gath was a foe to both Conan and Red Sonja, though his first appearance was in Conan #14, as you noted. He faced off against both of them several times, with them usually teaming up to fight him (at one point, Conan beheaded Gath while Sonja cut his heart out!). I'd say he became associated with Sonja more due to Marvel Team-Up #79, where Spider-Man and a Sonja-possessed Mary Jane fought him. Dynamite has since featured Kulan Gath in their main Red Sonja series, as well as a crossover with Marvel that reunited her with Spidey.

I kind of think of Kulan Gath as being similar to the Kingpin in the Marvel Universe. A case can be made he is a Spider-Man villain first and foremost, but many associate him more with Daredevil.

I'm not talking about association, (I associate him with Conan because of him being in that later story arc leading up to Conan 260, which is when I started reading,) but more about who would actually own him. I know Kulan Gath was in Savage Avengers as the primary antagonist when Conan was running around with them, so its surprising to me he was in Red Sonja at Dynamite, because that throws into question who owns him; Marvel, Red Sonja's License holder, or Conan's License holder?
 
Why write anything new and risky when you can write the Batman equivalent of that trashy Winnie the Pooh slasher flick that came out a year or two ago.
That movie's mere existence pretty much convinced me that "public domain" is going to be a blight on culture as so many characters enter it in the coming years.
 
but more about who would actually own him.
Marvel outright owns Kulan Gath as well as certain other elements of their version of 'The Hyborian Age.' Dynamite comics has an agreement with Marvel that allows them to use Kulan Gath, and some other elements of Marvel's Hyborian Age, in their Red Sonja comics.
 
Yeah, nothing is stopping them from putting that head with another figure. And I'm positive they'll do exactly that at some point.
Jeremy said on Wednesday night they ‘have a plan’ to get those heads to fans somehow. Not sure if they’ll do a head pack (safest option IMO) or include them with some other female figure. It’s hard to claim IP infringement on a generic head pack. They don’t own the look of redhead females. There would have to be a clear likenesses or something instantly recognizable like Darth Vader’s helmet to not be able to get away with selling things separately in a head pack.
 
Jeremy said on Wednesday night they ‘have a plan’ to get those heads to fans somehow. Not sure if they’ll do a head pack (safest option IMO) or include them with some other female figure. It’s hard to claim IP infringement on a generic head pack. They don’t own the look of redhead females. There would have to be a clear likenesses or something instantly recognizable like Darth Vader’s helmet to not be able to get away with selling things separately in a head pack.
Yeah, that's correct. On its own, it's just a head unless it's either iconic in design itself (Batman's mask, Vader's helmet) or a 1:1 recreation of a piece of artwork or photograph. The smartest play, given that they've already drawn a lot of attention to themselves with this, is to put it with a completely different figure or in some kind of decent-size accessory set.
If they just release the two heads entirely on their own right after releasing their not-Sonja figure, while it's not infringement, it literally sends the message that they just don't care and are going to do whatever they want ("here's the Red Sonja body, and here's the Red Sonja heads") and I think/hope they're smart enough to know that's going to cause a lot of friction with people they've already upset and who, I imagine, they don't want to have bad relations with.

Smart play is 'well, we made the head so we'll stick it on a totally different figure and if the FANS put it on another figure in their homes, that's their business.' I know it seems like a small distinction, but that really does -feel- different than 'you made us take the heads out, so we put them in a package by themselves for the express purpose of the fans buying those heads on their own to use with that previous figure.'

By that logic, it's not IP infringement if you make and sell a He-Man figure as long as you sell each part of his body in a different package.
Which is actually TRUE. But it's still going to have Mattel's lawyers spending a lot of time watching you very carefully and looking for an excuse to make your life miserable. Why go there?
 
Marvel outright owns Kulan Gath as well as certain other elements of their version of 'The Hyborian Age.' Dynamite comics has an agreement with Marvel that allows them to use Kulan Gath, and some other elements of Marvel's Hyborian Age, in their Red Sonja comics.
Thank you for educating me.
 
Johnny Nostalgia said Official Red Sonja is playing victim, claiming she's a stay at home mom. I'm watching his stream where he says that, it's not something I really care to dig in to.
 
Yeah, nothing is stopping them from putting that head with another figure. And I'm positive they'll do exactly that at some point.
I’m a bit surprised they don’t do more “assemble the homage from these figures” ersatz-BAF stuff. But I guess the direct homage figure sells better.
 
Yeah, that's correct. On its own, it's just a head unless it's either iconic in design itself (Batman's mask, Vader's helmet) or a 1:1 recreation of a piece of artwork or photograph. The smartest play, given that they've already drawn a lot of attention to themselves with this, is to put it with a completely different figure or in some kind of decent-size accessory set.
If they just release the two heads entirely on their own right after releasing their not-Sonja figure, while it's not infringement, it literally sends the message that they just don't care and are going to do whatever they want ("here's the Red Sonja body, and here's the Red Sonja heads") and I think/hope they're smart enough to know that's going to cause a lot of friction with people they've already upset and who, I imagine, they don't want to have bad relations with.

Smart play is 'well, we made the head so we'll stick it on a totally different figure and if the FANS put it on another figure in their homes, that's their business.' I know it seems like a small distinction, but that really does -feel- different than 'you made us take the heads out, so we put them in a package by themselves for the express purpose of the fans buying those heads on their own to use with that previous figure.'

By that logic, it's not IP infringement if you make and sell a He-Man figure as long as you sell each part of his body in a different package.
Which is actually TRUE. But it's still going to have Mattel's lawyers spending a lot of time watching you very carefully and looking for an excuse to make your life miserable. Why go there?
Fair points! Even the likes of Mezco and McFarlane released weapons packs designed to go with certain DC characters when DC was going through their no-weapons policy a few years back. ‘Double trouble’ was a double set of guns and knives timed perfectly with their Batman and Two-face set. The thing is, DC was probably in on the work around and since their name wasn’t anywhere to be found on the packaging probably let those things happen with their blessing or maybe even at their suggestion. That wouldn’t be the case here so you’re right packing them with a totally different figure might be the safest route to avoid any further issues.
 
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