Four Horsemen Studios Mythic Legions

thewyldman said:
Well that’s a figure that’s gonna be trash and then long forgotten if it comes out because it’s brutal realm.
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Comment from the Kickstarter...
Backer: "Will there be an update addressing that the figures that are supposed to have shipped before Chinese New Year (as stated in previous updates) are most definitely delayed and looking more like figures may ship later on in the year?"

Realm ToysCreator: "No."
 
Red Ogre said:
Comment from the Kickstarter...
Backer: "Will there be an update addressing that the figures that are supposed to have shipped before Chinese New Year (as stated in previous updates) are most definitely delayed and looking more like figures may ship later on in the year?"

Realm ToysCreator: "No."
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More importantly:
“No refunds”


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Damien said:
Oh my god, I actually just went and read the 4H presser for the change to their 'not Red Sonja' figure and it was the most insincere, dishonest, slimy bullshit I've ever seen come from the 4H. Fucking gross.
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Agreed with this. Crazy to pass off the resemblance as unintentional and the decision to reverse course as resulting from internal discussion following some epiphany. Don't know if there was a legal reason or just a failure of integrity that prompted them to lie rather than just fess up with "we're fans and meant it as an homage but got yelled at and don't want the fight." As discussed, even that would be giving themselves the benefit of the doubt as to the line between homage and theft but at least they'd have been honest about referential intent and motivation to drop it.
 
fac said:
Also interesting. Seems like it would be really dumb on BBTS part to not have thought that through...but maybe they didn't...
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My understanding is that Fresh Monkey Fiction syarted out with some of these homages in their 1/18 Eagle Force line.

Some other guys saw thaat and got inspired and did a whole kickstarter of the Roboskull vehicle and figure. That started out as 1/18 product as well.

Hasbro didn't seem overly bothered. But then FMF moved into 1/12 - which is where Hasbro is doing its G.I. Joe product currently. And FMF snuck a Red Shadows trooper head into their Sleepwalker figure but as a secret pack in not shown as part of the advertising photos .

However once they got bolder with their Crimson Moon line with pack in items to reconfigure the figures as all of the Red Shadows characters, and once they partnered with BBTS to run the brand, it got big enough that Has ro couldn't ignore it and they reached out and told FMF/BBWS to knock it off.

And so they have. BBWS has pivoted and no second wave of Crimson Moon has been solicited.

I get the sense that Hasbro didn't want to drop the hammer - they know and like the FMF guys. But they can't let it go on either.

And then Super7 who paid for access to the GIJoe license released their own Red Shadows figures...

[t is interesting that the Roboskull guys didn't get shut down similarly since they seem much more overt in their infringement on the Red Shadows product offerings.
 
So I've never brought this up in 4HM threads, but as long as we're complaining about them: a long time back I had an order from them where I received the wrong item - I think I had ordered the second Artemyss and they sent me that horse with the A name instead. No big deal, I emailed to arrange for me to send back the incorrect figure for the one I had ordered. But then their customer service guy said that one of the things they needed was a photo of the entire packing slip sheet, because "there should be a colored marking on it that will tell me who packed it." I was pretty astounded by that, as someone who's managed an e-commerce department before - like, there's no way that information isn't going to be used punitively against an employee, and I was pretty upset they had a system like that. I told him I wasn't comfortable doing that as part of the return, and he sent back a one-sentence email: "I need to know."

At that point, I told him that if they're making that a condition of the return, I didn't want to go any further with it. I got back a 5 or 6 paragraph email complaining about how difficult things are for a company that small and trying to assure me that the colored-mark system is being used not to punish employees but to help them improve (and I didn't believe that, but even if I had been open to believing it, I can't know for sure how the information is going to be used so I wouldn't risk it), but there was also some snark in there about me keeping the more expensive figure, which is like...I don't want this horse, I just want to be done dealing with an asshole. But that pissed me off, and I asked that I be able to speak to someone higher up about the situation. And the higher-up resolved it, but also managed to passive-aggressively imply that there was a lot that professionalism prevented him from saying to me.

So yeah, I haven't bought a single thing from them since.
 
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Red Ogre said:
I almost backed them, but something gave me the twitchy tingles and I went through BBTS.
Glad I did.
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I don't think there's been anything too disconcerting in the updates, right? No idea why people would be trashing them already anyway, unless it's for their aesthetics. 2 to 2½ years for delivery on an overly ambitious project like this with too many distinct figures as stretch goals was pretty expected. Which is why Savage Crucible split up their kickstarter in waves to great effect.

Those preliminary renders for Athena and the female body look not great, but they're early digital stuff so I'm not too pessimistic yet about what they'll deliver. That being said I am also glad I went through BBTS just in case...
 
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