Comic Book Talk
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Chooch555
Thoughtful
You mean the Loeb/McGuiness era?
Sometimes people say to me "Hey ... you're really fucking old."
Honest to God. And people wonder why I never had kids.
And then they'll say "Hey, is it true that you've been reading these comic thingies since before the invention of the written word, back when they were scrawled on cave walls? You must have read a lot. So what do you think are some of the greatest of all time?"
Well, okay. Here are some of what I think are the greatest comics ever written and drawn ...
(In no particular order)
Looking back on my 60 plus years of reading comics, these are the books that have had the biggest impact on me. The stories and art stayed with me for years after I read them. Kurtzman, Eisner, Spiegleman, Toth, Schultz, Barks, Stevens, the Los Bros Hernandez, Raymond, Krigstein, Wood, Foster, Crumb, Miller, Kojima, Ware, Clowes, Bradbury, Moore ... and that Kirby guy. I could go on and on and on about how magnificent I think their work is, but to put it simply and succinctly: They're why I still read comics to this day.
At some point, if I get a hankerin', I'll tell you what I think the 20 or 25 best DC Comics of all time are. And Marvel, as well.
And if you want to share what comics have impacted you, please do.
Honest to God. And people wonder why I never had kids.
And then they'll say "Hey, is it true that you've been reading these comic thingies since before the invention of the written word, back when they were scrawled on cave walls? You must have read a lot. So what do you think are some of the greatest of all time?"
Well, okay. Here are some of what I think are the greatest comics ever written and drawn ...
(In no particular order)
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Looking back on my 60 plus years of reading comics, these are the books that have had the biggest impact on me. The stories and art stayed with me for years after I read them. Kurtzman, Eisner, Spiegleman, Toth, Schultz, Barks, Stevens, the Los Bros Hernandez, Raymond, Krigstein, Wood, Foster, Crumb, Miller, Kojima, Ware, Clowes, Bradbury, Moore ... and that Kirby guy. I could go on and on and on about how magnificent I think their work is, but to put it simply and succinctly: They're why I still read comics to this day.
At some point, if I get a hankerin', I'll tell you what I think the 20 or 25 best DC Comics of all time are. And Marvel, as well.
And if you want to share what comics have impacted you, please do.
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I am such a huge fan of Prince Valiant.
Way before I read my first comic book, I used to keep the 'K' from the house Encyclopedia collection (every house had one in the '80s and '90s, right?) in my room, so I could read and re-read the 'Knight' entry and look at the picture of armor and weapons. Obviously this was before entire museums were catalogued visually online.
Prince Valiant was one of the first comic books I ever saw, and opened up this whole world of like 'other people like this stuff too?!' That got me into stuff like Conan comics and Marvel's Black Knight, as well as DC's Viking Prince and Silent Knight (and later Nightmaster in Showcase, I think, which would later lead into reading Shadowpact). Yeah, Prince Valiant had a huge impact on me in terms of what I even knew could exist in comics and what to look for.
Way before I read my first comic book, I used to keep the 'K' from the house Encyclopedia collection (every house had one in the '80s and '90s, right?) in my room, so I could read and re-read the 'Knight' entry and look at the picture of armor and weapons. Obviously this was before entire museums were catalogued visually online.
Prince Valiant was one of the first comic books I ever saw, and opened up this whole world of like 'other people like this stuff too?!' That got me into stuff like Conan comics and Marvel's Black Knight, as well as DC's Viking Prince and Silent Knight (and later Nightmaster in Showcase, I think, which would later lead into reading Shadowpact). Yeah, Prince Valiant had a huge impact on me in terms of what I even knew could exist in comics and what to look for.
yojoebro82
Considerate
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The conclusion to Hush 2 is pushed back to next year. Jesus. I just need to go trades only. Problem is the LCS I pull my books at doesn't do trades, only singles, and I want to support them. Well.....support them as much as I can, at least, with my pull list of like 3 books a month.
Just a reminder that the first Marvel and DC crossover in more than 20 years arrives in comic shops this Wednesday.
I've been looking forward to this since it was first announced. It's always fun when characters from two different companies cross over with each other.
Let me take you back to a very snowy winter's day in early January, 1976. 17 year old me stopped in my favorite drug store to get my weekly comic fix and lo and behold, I saw this:
Now understand, this was 1976. Almost 50 years ago. There was no internet then. There was such a thing as fanzines, but I was from a little town in rural Indiana. I had no idea fanzines even existed. Bottom line is I had no idea this thing was even coming out. It came totally out of left field. Left field? Hell, it may as well have come from another planet.
I stood there in shock for a few minutes wondering if I was in the Twilight Zone. Marvel and DC teaming up for a crossover? Not possible.
But there it was. I grabbed it and the rest of my comics, paid for them, and ran right straight out into a blizzard. But I didn't really care about the weather. I just needed to get home and read the damn thing. Fortunately I managed to get there without getting killed.
I found out years later that Superman vs. Spider-Man happened because of a literary agent named David Obst. Superman was getting ready to be a big budget movie, you see, and Spider-Man had a live action TV show in the early stages of production. David had grandiose ideas about a live action Superman and Spider-Man crossover but obviously that never happened.
Well, that's okay. We had the comic. And then in 1981 DC and Marvel tried it again. And they've been off and on (Mostly off) ever since.
It's nice to see them trying again. I know it won't last. Someone from one of the companies will piss off someone else and it'll be years before they have a go again. It's okay. When you get to be my age you learn to enjoy things will they last.
A little something to feed the nostalgia bug:
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I've been looking forward to this since it was first announced. It's always fun when characters from two different companies cross over with each other.
Let me take you back to a very snowy winter's day in early January, 1976. 17 year old me stopped in my favorite drug store to get my weekly comic fix and lo and behold, I saw this:
Now understand, this was 1976. Almost 50 years ago. There was no internet then. There was such a thing as fanzines, but I was from a little town in rural Indiana. I had no idea fanzines even existed. Bottom line is I had no idea this thing was even coming out. It came totally out of left field. Left field? Hell, it may as well have come from another planet.
I stood there in shock for a few minutes wondering if I was in the Twilight Zone. Marvel and DC teaming up for a crossover? Not possible.
But there it was. I grabbed it and the rest of my comics, paid for them, and ran right straight out into a blizzard. But I didn't really care about the weather. I just needed to get home and read the damn thing. Fortunately I managed to get there without getting killed.
I found out years later that Superman vs. Spider-Man happened because of a literary agent named David Obst. Superman was getting ready to be a big budget movie, you see, and Spider-Man had a live action TV show in the early stages of production. David had grandiose ideas about a live action Superman and Spider-Man crossover but obviously that never happened.
Well, that's okay. We had the comic. And then in 1981 DC and Marvel tried it again. And they've been off and on (Mostly off) ever since.
It's nice to see them trying again. I know it won't last. Someone from one of the companies will piss off someone else and it'll be years before they have a go again. It's okay. When you get to be my age you learn to enjoy things will they last.
A little something to feed the nostalgia bug:
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yojoebro82
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I need to track down a couple of those crossovers, particularly Punisher/Batman. (I love the idea of a Jubilee/Robin romance).
Chooch555
Thoughtful
JLA /Avengers may never be topped.
akajomiha
Loves DDs
I remember thinking it would never happen and salivating over the unpublished original Conway/Thomas/Perez pages that were later shown. A part of me still wishes it had happened, but then we'd never have gotten the Busiek/Perez version, so... I dunno.
Revox
Ponderous
Oh for the days where Firestorm got some love. Kinda wild he's facing off against Tony though, he could just turn his suit into orchids in under 10 seconds, job done.
akajomiha
Loves DDs
Man, I loved (and still love) Firestorm- I think a lot of it was just pure appreciation of his costume design, but Conway's comics were fun too.
Great googly moogly. Here's a few more that I almost forgot:
I'm going to set the way back machine again, this time for 1981, the year when the second Marvel/DC crossover came out. I remember getting into a little debate about it with the guy that owned the comic store I went to. Back in those days, the crossovers all took place on the same Earth. Yes, both the Marvel and DC characters existed in the same universe. How can that be, my friend asked. Well, he had a point. How does being on one world square with both Namor and Aquaman being the king of Atlantis? Where was the Justice League during the Kree/Skrull war? How does the Legion's bright, optimistic future square with Days of Future Past? You're trying to tell me that the fun, jovial, brave and heroic Hercules that was a member of the Avengers once raped Wonder Woman's mom? The Avengers had nothing to say about Darkseid?
Yeah, see. There were lots of little problems like that.
But I didn't care that much. I cared maybe a little, but not much.
I liked the fact that Superman and Spider-Man lived on the same world. Sure, it seemed kind of odd that it would take until 1976 for them to meet, but I liked it. This way you had both heroes supporting characters there, too. J. Jonah Jameson and Perry White can be old friends. Doc Ock and Lex Luthor can team up. Mary Jane Watson and Lois Lane can have a girls night out. It was fun. If you had Superman traveling to Marvel world or Spider-Man going to DC world than you don't get that much interaction.
Glaring continuity issues aside, I liked this way better.
I have no idea how Marvel and DC are going to handle the Batman/Deadpool team-up tomorrow. We'll see. Deadpool is kind of a unique character that can appear in a lot of different places because he knows he's a character in a comic book. It would be funny if Ambush Bug and She-Hulk showed up, too.
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I'm going to set the way back machine again, this time for 1981, the year when the second Marvel/DC crossover came out. I remember getting into a little debate about it with the guy that owned the comic store I went to. Back in those days, the crossovers all took place on the same Earth. Yes, both the Marvel and DC characters existed in the same universe. How can that be, my friend asked. Well, he had a point. How does being on one world square with both Namor and Aquaman being the king of Atlantis? Where was the Justice League during the Kree/Skrull war? How does the Legion's bright, optimistic future square with Days of Future Past? You're trying to tell me that the fun, jovial, brave and heroic Hercules that was a member of the Avengers once raped Wonder Woman's mom? The Avengers had nothing to say about Darkseid?
Yeah, see. There were lots of little problems like that.
But I didn't care that much. I cared maybe a little, but not much.
I liked the fact that Superman and Spider-Man lived on the same world. Sure, it seemed kind of odd that it would take until 1976 for them to meet, but I liked it. This way you had both heroes supporting characters there, too. J. Jonah Jameson and Perry White can be old friends. Doc Ock and Lex Luthor can team up. Mary Jane Watson and Lois Lane can have a girls night out. It was fun. If you had Superman traveling to Marvel world or Spider-Man going to DC world than you don't get that much interaction.
Glaring continuity issues aside, I liked this way better.
I have no idea how Marvel and DC are going to handle the Batman/Deadpool team-up tomorrow. We'll see. Deadpool is kind of a unique character that can appear in a lot of different places because he knows he's a character in a comic book. It would be funny if Ambush Bug and She-Hulk showed up, too.