U.S. Politics

SDcomics said:

When you live long enough, you can clearly see how history keeps repeating itself.

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You don't have to even live long enough. You can just open a book. No one, even young people (especially young people, perhaps) should be able to pretend they didn't see this coming.

Chooch555 said:

I don't know what this means.

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Douchecanoe's tweet or the Standing By?

If the second, It's just like on January 6th where people were waiting for some sort of signal. I just think it's gross that there are civilians who are just sitting here waiting to join the fray be on behalf of their idiot crusade.

Both my Grandfather's killed Nazis. Actually killed them with their rifles that they were trained to use.

Jack Kirby did too.

I those guys.

Damien said:

You don't have to even live long enough. You can just open a book. No one, even young people (especially young people, perhaps) should be able to pretend they didn't see this coming.

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I saw an interview with Fassbender from a few years back talking about how good the Irish education system is and how INTRINSIC history is to it so they don't repeat the past. (My ex's father taught Irish to both Fassbender and Cillian Murphy, actually, said they were good lads who BARELY passed his class "but they had enough talent to get away with it," always think of the old man when I see either guy on screen). But there's a country that wants its people to remember where they've been, and the US has every textbook approved by the Texas state board of education before it's used in schools in Boston just to make sure it doesn't offend any KKK members. I think about how many Americans' first exposure to the massacre of Black Wall Street was the effin' Watchmen TV show.

Ignorance is certainly a voluntary state, but the US education system lets it cheat on its exam.

altcunningham said:

Douchecanoe's tweet or the Standing By?

If the second, It's just like on January 6th where people were waiting for some sort of signal. I just think it's gross that there are civilians who are just sitting here waiting to join the fray be on behalf of their idiot crusade.

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Both I guess, but the verbiage of the tweet mostly. I since looked it up and... yeah. Oppression ramp up every day.

More water on the "I'll just leave the country" fire:

As someone who has almost been deported, you have not truly lived until you thought you were being kicked out of a country and then were told you could stay, not a near death experience but I swear it's the same biochemical shit storm

docsilence said:

More water on the "I'll just leave the country" fire:

Americans traveling to most of Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new regulations set to take effect

Authorities in Europe will phase in new security measures for Americans and other international travelers over a roughly six-month period starting next month.

www.cbsnews.com

As someone who has almost been deported, you have not truly lived until you thought you were being kicked out of a country and then were told you could stay, not a near death experience but I swear it's the same biochemical shit storm

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Well the US has been taking advantage of other countries lack of will in regards to implementing similar customs/border measures that have been in place for sometimes up to decades. I mean the fact that Canada allows the US to put custom/border agents in our airports to prescreen passengers is crazy when it isn't done in kind. As far as I know the agreement with Canada allows us to do the same to US passengers in US airports but it just isn't worth it apparently.

So with the US fingerprinting for quite some time now it shouldn't come as a surprise that with Trump and his actions other countries would start to enforce reciprocal actions on US travellers.

docsilence said:

I saw an interview with Fassbender from a few years back talking about how good the Irish education system is and how INTRINSIC history is to it so they don't repeat the past. (My ex's father taught Irish to both Fassbender and Cillian Murphy, actually, said they were good lads who BARELY passed his class "but they had enough talent to get away with it," always think of the old man when I see either guy on screen). But there's a country that wants its people to remember where they've been, and the US has every textbook approved by the Texas state board of education before it's used in schools in Boston just to make sure it doesn't offend any KKK members. I think about how many Americans' first exposure to the massacre of Black Wall Street was the effin' Watchmen TV show.

Ignorance is certainly a voluntary state, but the US education system lets it cheat on its exam.

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Well it still depends on where in Ireland you live and in what school system you are being taught. I mean "The Troubles" gets slightly different teachings based on Ireland versus Northern Ireland, and of course all sorts of religious holdovers still exist for Catholic and Protestant. History is important to the Irish system, but it has flaws and blind spots like any other system.

canprime said:

Well the US has been taking advantage of other countries lack of will in regards to implementing similar customs/border measures that have been in place for sometimes up to decades. I mean the fact that Canada allows the US to put custom/border agents in our airports to prescreen passengers is crazy when it isn't done in kind. As far as I know the agreement with Canada allows us to do the same to US passengers in US airports but it just isn't worth it apparently.

So with the US fingerprinting for quite some time now it shouldn't come as a surprise that with Trump and his actions other countries would start to enforce reciprocal actions on US travellers.

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Not even a knock on other countries doing it, I intended it as a "no, you can't just flee easily to another country" thing since we're seeing so many people saying they'll just leave. Granted the EU was doing this to prevent folks from Africa etc. from staying there first, but the US has absolutely earned itself some fingerprinting and banning if you overstay your welcome at this point.

(I was legally in Ireland for a while and almost got booted out at an airport because of a paperwork mixup back in... 2010? NOT FUN.)

SDcomics said:

Both my Grandfather's killed Nazis. Actually killed them with their rifles that they were trained to use.

Jack Kirby did too.

I those guys.

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My granddad did. Liberated two different camps and jumped at Normandy.

Yet my Marine dad and National Guard brother voted for Trump twice and now just have nothing to say. Honestly not sure if my dad's term 2 silence or my brother's "Nah, it's not as bad as the news says" is worse.

I feel like my Drill Sergeant and my very first First Sergeant would be putting a bayonet in a bunch of faces if they were still around.

altcunningham said:

My granddad did. Liberated two different camps and jumped at Normandy.

Yet my Marine dad and National Guard brother voted for Trump twice and now just have nothing to say. Honestly not sure if my dad's term 2 silence or my brother's "Nah, it's not as bad as the news says" is worse.

I feel like my Drill Sergeant and my very first First Sergeant would be putting a bayonet in a bunch of faces if they were still around.

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Your Granddad's a hero. He was part of what Tom Brokaw once called "The Greatest Generation." He basically helped save the world from a horrible scourge. Don't ever forget that.

altcunningham said:

Douchecanoe's tweet or the Standing By?

If the second, It's just like on January 6th where people were waiting for some sort of signal. I just think it's gross that there are civilians who are just sitting here waiting to join the fray be on behalf of their idiot crusade.

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the irony...

"I had put blinders on, I really had, and I was listening to only ... what I thought I believed,"" she told San Francisco television station KGO in April 2009. "We thought that doing that would actually trigger a new revolution."

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Never knew about this, thanks for putting it up.

Pull quote especially is the cautionary tale. Not sure if it's irony or just proving the point.

For me, I think a large part of it is also how social media has evolved and how memes are so mainstream. I think it's one thing to do what she did. But it's a totally different context for me in a world where people are throwing up Pepe the frog or 8-bit remix memes of JD Vance with his blueberry head and using that to just distinctively post content publicly saying you are standing by to aid in violence.

docsilence said:

Not even a knock on other countries doing it, I intended it as a "no, you can't just flee easily to another country" thing since we're seeing so many people saying they'll just leave. Granted the EU was doing this to prevent folks from Africa etc. from staying there first, but the US has absolutely earned itself some fingerprinting and banning if you overstay your welcome at this point.

(I was legally in Ireland for a while and almost got booted out at an airport because of a paperwork mixup back in... 2010? NOT FUN.)

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Interesting story for me. Back in the early 2000s I worked for a US company with locations in Canada. I was sent down to the US to help open a new location, which was the practice company wide. So any manager, from any location could qualify to help with an opening. Canadian managers regularly were part of the opening teams.

So I head to the airport and at prescreening I get denied because I was taking a job away from an American. I tried explaining the situation but no luck. So I left and called head office. They told me to go back the next day and tell them I was doing "training." Sure enough the next day I do all that and they happily let me through. So prescreening was basically a waste of time for both me and the company because someone at my local airport decided I was taking a job from an American. Yet the next day someone else let me in for basically the same "job" but I had worded my reason more acceptably. So I guess the one benefit was that I didn't have to actually fly down and get denied.

Oh and if you guys want a laugh check out these stories about your ambassador to Canada. Nothing quite so lovely as having the person who is supposed to represent your government in another country threaten that country at multiple events. Of course with the current situation in the US I guess he is representing the Trump regime exactly how they want:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/us...disappointed-anti-american-campaign-1.7637534

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/us-ambassador-airport-pre-clearance-1.7644088

The president casually admits he can't tell fact from fiction. I'm new to this politics thing... when does the press step in and demand his resignation?

"I spoke to the governor, she was very nice. But I said, 'Well wait a minute, am I watching things on television that are different from what's happening? My people tell me different.' They are literally attacking and there are fires all over the place..."

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