Naw, man. This is *the* place to be passionate about the things we love. Always say it.
Well thank you, and also I appreciate you and Damien not making me feel like a whiny bitch.
And for my part, while I can’t promise total positivity, I *will* make a conscious effort to remind myself, here and elsewhere, that all of this comes from a well of things I absolutely adore. They’re making a movie where Doctor Doom is the main character!! HOLY SHIT.
Well, and I appreciate that... but you also should be allowed to bitch about the things that bother you. I almost made a separate thread but didn't want that to be taken the wrong way either.
But yeah, this could be the most faithful Dr. Doom on screen yet, but also of course that's a really low bar. More on that in a moment.
If it makes you feel better,
@Ru1977, I think you and I are probably a lot more on the same page than me and Ace, for example.
I guess it does, heh, thanks.
I'm just generally of a more pessimistic disposition, so I will always tend to look at the 'why are they doing THIS' or 'I'm not sure how I feel about THAT choice' even AS I get hyped about something. I'm super excited about The Odyssey and all I can think to do for now is rag the absolute shit out of the costumes, because they are clearly terrible.
I'm excited about Doomsday. I'm excited to see what they do with this. I don't know that I'm going to like it. But I want to SEE it. I want to see what they thought was a good reason to bring these characters back. I want to see why they thought casting RDJ as Doom, which on its face seems incredibly stupid and they had to know that, was a good idea. And even if I'm skeptical, I really hope they pull all this off and do give us one more fun giant Avengers movie (and to be fair to the guys, I can say that because I actually do enjoy Infinity War and Endgame).
And yeah, in a perfect world, or were I in charge and didn't care about ticket sales, I wouldn't have done the RDJ thing. Not at all close to my first choice, but that's where they're going. yes, I'm thrilled to finally have the character, no this isn't how I wanted it, but also yet I'm open to seeing what they do with this too. I expect it to be entertaining, but hoping they pay it off somehow so that I walk out of the theater grasping why he played Doom beyond 'profit'.
OK I keep laughing at this though because I’m imagining myself railed to the gills on coke, sweating through my leather and yelling “FUCK TONY STARK, MAN!! BUT ONLY FUCK MOVIE TONY STARK AND 21st CENTURY TONY STARK!! ALL THE OTHER TONY STARKS ARE AWESOME MAN, YYYYEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!”
[full disclosure: in my fucked-up life one thing I have actually never done ever is cocaine]
ONE thing? Heh.
Also I did like Infinity War for what it was, and had tons of fun in the theatre watching the casuals freak out over deaths I know would promptly be reversed. Can’t say the same of Endgame, but for a big giant “trying to please everyone” extravaganza, one out of two ain’t bad.
And that's fair.
I think one big fat aspect to these movies I can't ignore is they're linked to my son. When he was bigger, I showed him Iron Man and Avengers, and he really got into them. I think we saw everything in 2017-2019 in the theater Marvel put out because he was so into it, so while I do watch these movies with my adult scrutiny and love of lore, I also partially watch with a kid's sensibilities since a dear one was right next to me for so many of these. So I can't see Endgame that way too easily. Though, the lady charge was hamfisted as hell.
I can also caveat everything I say by pointing out that I am an X-Men guy, not an Avengers guy. I'm way more likely to just 'go for the ride' with the modern MCU because it doesn't even really include characters I give a shit about outside the movies besides Thor (and THAT has been a rollercoaster for me).
If these movies had started the same year as the first X-Men movie, I probably would have been the same way as I never read an Avengers comic until after 2012, and up to that point my only real exposure to them as a team was 1984's Secret Wars. So, I would have been more into X-Men as well, though I was not really... I wasn't hot on the X-Men movies. And I'm not super thrilled to bring them back into the MCU, even if it's a farewell romp. But I'll take the ride.
Actually, I was always, since I could read, a Spider-Man guy, and I was massively disappointed in the Raimi movies. So,
@AceofKnaves I'm sorry... how you feel about these Avengers may be something I can grasp a little better than I originally thought heh.
But ask me to talk about the X-Men movies, or Punisher FUCKING RETIRING BETWEEN SHOW SEASONS, and my attitude changes a lot from 'eh, it was fun for what it was' to 'how fucking dare they?!'
Heh, yeah, we do all have our things.
