Marvel Cinematic Universe Movies and Streaming Series Discussion

Secret Wars was my introduction (though I remember them on Amazing Friends as well), then I jumped on Uncanny and later worked my way backward with reprints and back issues. I believe those are all still up in my mom's attic but now I can't remember...
 
Just because “they” wanted to tell the story that way, doesn’t mean it’s immune to criticism. My point is that it’s an added element that is not an integral part of any previous portrayal of the character/story, and in the case of the “family/kids” stuff it is an obvious manipulative tactic that has not been “earned” through previous storytelling.

I liked Endgame in the moment, but it' really a movie the more i thnk about it, the more i hate it.

Like, I dgaf about Morgan stark, she shouldn't exist. Tony Stark tells me "I know how to save everyone that got snapped, but I refuse to lose the past five years, and all the people that died because of the snap or in the ensuing five years, because I have a daughter now."

and like, in Fantastic Four, hey made it work, because they had an actual solution to save people.

The end of Infinity war shows a plane or helicopter crashing into a building cause the pilot was snapped, and there's no way to convince me "Oh well all the people in the building and passengers were also snapped"

then there's the nonsense of people being returned from being snapped, but like, exactly where they were when they were snapped? Which leads to some other horrifying thoughts!

like Infinity War and Endgame try to make thanos some guy that claims he's doing it to save people. like, got thats so much lamer than making him a dude in love with Death.

but it's also like this Jenny Nicholson Joke

y'all are bad at your job

Yes, and then a *thing* happened to them to trigger it. I find that more satisfying. I don't know what else to say about it.



In Stan's own words, 'born that way' was his shortcut to not having to think about an origin. They'd eventually grow into a metaphor for minorities (minorities that could erase your mind and stomp your house), but at the start, it was just some rando white kids who each had a super-power. I'm not even sure if the timeline for atomic testing even works for Magneto, let alone Namor or Apocalypse.



I'm not here to convince anyone that the X-Men are lame (and I keep deleting the huge paragraphs that start forming when I try to defend it), just that they don't hold up to my scrutiny. They're just super-powered heroes doing superhero stuff, they've just wrapped their power fantasy in social commentary.

I also never read a single comic that had Inhumans sprouting up around the world, so I blissfully only have my imagination of what that would be like and I think it sounds pretty cool.


Hey, I see you and I hear you, and hell yeah, x-men are lame, I'm with you.
 
mcu sure likes making superheroes dads

Me:

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For me the only 2 Marvel dads that get a pass are Reed Richards and Scott Summers in comics. I hate aging superheroes beyond a certain point that weren't introduced as already having kids. I guess that means I can also give any immortals a pass as well. Movie-wise it's fine.
 
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Love it. Clearly a theme with the kids. Are they anchor beings? Is Doom collecting them? Next trailer features Cyclops - might there be a Rachel Grey in his universe? And not sure it is a coincidence that Coogler is out there reminding us that T'Challa has a son (who appeared at the end of Wakanda Forever) just before that teaser hits...
 
I'm happy to see where they're going with this focus on parenthood, or maybe that's more of a misdirection than anything.

What I am VERY here for is Thor asking for the power of the Allfather. Fuck Yes. Even if the rest of the movie is shit, I will be happy if I get to see a 'Return of Thor' full-power Allfather Thor.
Also.. why does he have Stormbreaker? Didn't he take Mjolnir back at the end of Love & Thunder?
 
I'm happy to see where they're going with this focus on parenthood, or maybe that's more of a misdirection than anything.

What I am VERY here for is Thor asking for the power of the Allfather. Fuck Yes. Even if the rest of the movie is shit, I will be happy if I get to see a 'Return of Thor' full-power Allfather Thor.
Also.. why does he have Stormbreaker? Didn't he take Mjolnir back at the end of Love & Thunder?
He did, and Love had Stormbreaker, so... Yeah. And he has short hair again.
 
Not to get all Quesada about, but I think making everyone a dad makes these characters less relatable to kids. Feels like an obvious “appeal to the folks who were adolescents in 2012 and now have families” move. Cynical. Don’t like it.
 
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