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Damien said:
I like the Odyssey a lot. But as of right now, the only half-decent adaptation of it I've ever seen was the one with Armand Assante as Odysseus.
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I would recommend Hector Berlioz's epic opera Les Troyans, which is based more on Virgil's Aeneid, but suspect that would be a waste of time...
 
AceofKnaves said:
It was! I watched it when it originally aired!
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Assante has such a great screen presence. I still remember the speech at the end after he reveals himself as Odysseus to the suitors. "Your crime is that you tried to steal my world, the world I built with my hands..." So good.



Ru1977 said:
Heh, even when it said "THIS SUMMER", I could barely see it.
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RIGHT?!



fac said:
I would recommend Hector Berlioz's epic opera Les Troyans, which is based more on Virgil's Aeneid, but suspect that would be a waste of time...
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True story - I watched that on YouTube a few years ago (3... 4?). It's... wild. I remember it made me think about that Odyssey space cartoon.. Ulysses 21 or something? But yeah, the Aeneid is definitely worse than The Iliad and the Odyssey in every way and is just Roman propaganda. But still fun.
 
Damien said:
True story - I watched that on YouTube a few years ago (3... 4?). It's... wild. I remember it made me think about that Odyssey space cartoon.. Ulysses 21 or something? But yeah, the Aeneid is definitely worse than The Iliad and the Odyssey in every way and is just Roman propaganda. But still fun.
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You must have watched this version (
) which is highly modernized and definitely idiosyncratic in its staging.

No easy way to see a more traditional staging for free, but this version conducted by Gardiner (a Berlioz expert) - if you can find it - is probably the best (https://www.amazon.com/Berlioz-Troyens-Blu-ray-Susan-Graham/) as is this version from the Metropolitan Opera in NYC from 2013 conducted by Levine (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2661764/) - the Met's 1970's staging probably is sung better, but the modern video, design and sound is better. But of course none of them are going to be especially accurate in terms of attire or anything like accuracy.

I am a bit of Berlioz geek, hence more than you need to know....
 
That is the one I watched! I'll have to look into seeing another version if I can.
 
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Damien said:
I like the Odyssey a lot. But as of right now, the only half-decent adaptation of it I've ever seen was the one with Armand Assante as Odysseus. Definitely a product of its time and I'm pretty sure it was a made-for-TV movie, but a lot is excusable because of that.
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I can't give Assante's version full marks just because it's a product of its time, with the budget appropriate to a TV mini-series/movie. I will always give it that the material culture mostly looks better than anything Hollywood is probably ever going to do in my lifetime.
 
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