Continuing my MCU rewatch

Maybe so but the people I know who have worked with him are, to put it kindly, not fans.

I'm convinced Marvel did not tell Sony about the Snap - which is why it became known as the "Blip" which is such a dumb word with zero weight for a monumental, five-year-long, universe-shattering event. I think the fundraiser in the opening was totally VFX'd in Post to be about the Blip and ADR'd to match. And Sony refused to move the release date, which once again did not help the overall MCU story (see also: NWH).

I really enjoy the Holland movies and the cast and the week before this movie came out, I had been really good avoiding spoilers. I was getting a haircut and an ad came on and before I could look away it was MJ on the bridge saying, with subtitles, "so you're Spider-Man" followed by his reaction. RUINED that moment.

This is the denouement of the Infinity Saga, but I would argue it should end with GOTGv3. That movie was supposed to come next and if people hadn't been stupid, it would have released Feb/March 2020 - right before the pandemic. The themes of that movie make it feel like a more definitive ending for the Infinity Saga and wraps up characters, and so in my head canon it goes next.

I forgot Black Widow... hmmmmm.

Sidenote - I said the word "denouement" out loud recently and my friend just laughed her ass off at my pronunciation which was... not right. It sounded awful as I said it and I realized I was wrong, but it made her day.
 
Schizm said:
This is the denouement of the Infinity Saga, but I would argue it should end with GOTGv3.
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You may have to talk me through this. I love GotGv3, but don't see how it capstones the Infinity Saga. Sure it wraps up character stories, but doesn't really reflect on the Snap other than kind of through a time travelly Gamora.

Black Widow *should* have been part of the Infinity Saga, and it's a real shame they sat on it for so long. But, as a flashback movie that introduces characters for Thunderbolts, I'm okay with it being in Phase 4. Same with Falcon & WS. Although it deals with fallout from the Snap, I think it's real value is introducing Walker and (hopefully) Eli Bradley.
 
I don't have a problem with the Blip being an alt name for the Snap, I am sure there were a lot of names and theories as to what happened, and I wonder if most people believed it was some dude with a gauntlet with magic stones that did it. You have to wonder how planets who had no idea who Thanos was reacted, both when it happened and five years later when it unhappened.

But now I need to rewatch the opening to see if I agree that much was added in post to reference it.
 
fac said:
But now I need to rewatch the opening to see if I agree that much was added in post to reference it
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I really doubt that. It's too ingrained in the plot. Peter's main rival with MJ was from grades below him but is now older and dashing. His teacher's wife pretended to be dusted to ghost him for five years. I don't get it.
 
I'm okay with "blip." It emphasizes the common person's incomplete view of what happened. Now, in Hawkeye, there's "Thanos was right" graffiti, so some information must be out there. It didn't occur to me at the time to pay attention to how much Cap said on the subject to his support group.

There's nothing visibly Blip-related at the fundraiser, and the only time it's mentioned is in a very wide, easily VO'd shot, and a couple closeups that are easy pick up shots because there's no extras visible. It's also possible that Brad was just a cute dude at school hitting on MJ until they added two lines saying he used to be a freshman.

The only reason I'm not entirely convinced is the scene where the marching band disappears and reappears on the basketball court. Those shots feel labor-intensive since they require crowds, stuntwork, and VFX.
 
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