Fwoosh Toys/Articulated Icons - A Retrospective

I used to pester the hell out of Jesse Falcon back in the day about doing Ultimate X-Men figures. He was always so generous with his time and would give me "You never know" type responses to a 17 year old enthusiastic, annoying geek. Every time. Never losing his patience with me.

I also had a buddy who fabricated the accessories for Toy Biz, so I got little sneak peeks here and there of (then) upcoming Spider-Man Classic bases, and the church that came with Nightcrawler in the X2 line.

To me, those were the days. It was the wild west of collecting-- where information was spilled freely. Not necessarily openly for everyone. But if you knew the right people, and they knew you were a reliable steel trap who wouldn't blab, they'd divulge. But just getting those little nibbles of information was half of the fun of collecting then.

If you are a youngin, you truly missed out. Not to be all "old man yells at clouds", but shit was different then. In a good way. We have all the access in the world to these people with social media nowadays, but it just doesn't hit the same way as it did then.

You're so right. I was friends with someone on a Buffy the Vampire Slayer message board who ended up getting a job at DST. He'd give me sneak peeks and let me help design some of the accessories. There's a Giles figure that comes with a "Demons & Dragons" book; I named it! I've tried to look him up occasionally but he doesn't seem to have much of an online presence these days.
 
Did that friend ever sneak you a peek at stuff that didn't get released, like Gunn or anything? I'm still trying to find good fodder for a Judge custom. :/
 
Honestly once I'd gone through like 2 minutes of straight "nothing on the market is worth what it costs" I turned it off. Life's too short.
I listened to it while I was doing a takeoff and it doesn't get a lot better. I actually totally agree with 'nothing is worth what they're charging.' It was more that even at 1.5 speed, I felt like this guy popped a bunch of Ambien before turning the camera on. He also goes on to spend way too long sweeping for Bobby Vala. The whole video was just a VERY roundabout way of saying he's not buying BigBadWorkShop stuff anymore because Fwoosh stole from people. Fair enough. Seems like this could have been an email, though.
 
I listened to it while I was doing a takeoff and it doesn't get a lot better. I actually totally agree with 'nothing is worth what they're charging.' It was more that even at 1.5 speed, I felt like this guy popped a bunch of Ambien before turning the camera on. He also goes on to spend way too long sweeping for Bobby Vala. The whole video was just a VERY roundabout way of saying he's not buying BigBadWorkShop stuff anymore because Fwoosh stole from people. Fair enough. Seems like this could have been an email, though.
yeah, it's not so much that I disagree per se, it's just like, that's the landscape. There's barely anyone out there offering stuff more than a couple of dollars different and none of those are going to be able to produce the licensed figures people want at those costs.
It just gets old after a while and it feels like some folks have no other content but repeating that over and over.
 
I'm getting uncomfortable at this being the second time you've vouched for someone being cool, when my first & only exposure to them was quite the opposite, because, as I've said before, YOU DO seem genuinely nice & kind & generous yourself, lol.

The first time I saw Randy talk was a Pixel Dan interview, where he was talking about how great "the chase" is, and "having something someone else doesn't have, really makes you feel special." Which I not only loathe the chase because I practically always come up empty, having wasted time & gas, but that second sentiment is SUPER FUCKING TOXIC to the collecting community. It's all those fuckwads who absolutely hated me on Fwoosh, who sobbed uncontrollably when a company would reissue an exclusive, because it meant their figure's value decreased.

I've only seen one other interview with Randy & Veebs, and he wasn't all that nice or kind to Veebs (who isn't my favorite person either, which sucks, because I LOVE Robo & wanna be his best friend lolol). He was very sarcastic & snarky, and that shit's only funny when you also display redeemable qualities with them. Brian Flynn may be one of the toy community's biggest pieces of shit, but he's still always super friendly on camera (which is jarring, when he says unhinged asshole shit in that tone, lmfao).

He should have never been doxxed, and that person who did it should be fired...from a cannon into the Sun.

But anyone who prefers this hobby to be EXclusive instead of INclusive...isn't nice, kind, and certainly nowhere near generous, I'm sorry, lol. 🤷‍♂️
So...

This is going to come across the wrong way and super finger pointy-y...so my apologies in advance.

That said, I live by the philosophy of "If everyone else is a problem, maybe it's me/you". Like, I used to think that everyone under the sun was a massive prick. I still do. I'm working on that.

However, I also began to take a step back and understand that I'm not always the most pleasant. I can be an asshole, I can be snippy, and I can be curt or blunt in a very confrontational way. I began to realize that not everyone I was speaking to was an asshole, and maybe that I was the asshole. Maybe that day I had my sensitivity dialed up a bit, and I wasn't reading the situation as I should have been. Sure, there are truly some horrible people out there, but...all of them? Everyone? Or is it me?

Now, that's not to excuse myself or what I say, I take ownership of being a prick, myself--but that doesn't make it okay. And because of that, I've continued working on being a more patient and understanding person who gives others grace for any perceived transgressions. It doesn't always happen, but I genuinely make an effort.

I actively try to see the positives in people, although, again, it doesn't always work out, and that side of me starts to rear its ugly head again. But I continue to try to get along, and not be too egregious in what I say, and be pleasant to others.

That being said, I think it's fair to say that on the opposite side of the spectrum, I've seen you outright say that people should die in fires. Over toys. I don't think that is a particularly healthy way of viewing people or talking about people. There are people here that I can't stand, there are people across this hobby that I abhor--there are certain lines we cannot cross. Wishing death on those people is one of those things. Especially over something as innocuous as them being mean to you. Yeah, it sucks, and yeah you can tell them to go fuck themselves. But...harm? I can't say that's the right line of thinking.

So for every person you say I vouch for, I can say I've seen you say the opposite for people that I don't have that big of a problem with, or at all.

Everyone can have bad days, or bad weeks, or bad MONTHS. Everyone can have a misstep. Everyone can say the wrong thing, or say it in a way that someone doesn't like.

Especially me. And I would certainly hope no one wishes for me to die because of it.

In your case, there is no wiggle room. It's "this person has made this transgression towards me and now they must die". I can't walk through life like that. Especially over this silly little hobby.

Randy has snipped at me before. I snipped back. Half an hour later, we were laughing about something else. It happens. We all have our limits and boundaries, and sometimes, even people we enjoy meet them. Overall, however, he has been nothing but kind to me, and I've seen him go above and beyond to help others.

The key is to view the person as a whole, and not as their moments of lapse, where they lose themselves. I don't agree with your viewpoint on people, but I don't hold that against you. Just like I don't hold it against anyone else I've gotten into disagreements with here.

Continued patterns, however--horse of a different color. Some people are just bad people, and there's no redeeming. Randy, ToyShiz...they are not one of those people. But that's a rant for another day, and I've already rambled enough.

Hopefully this has been a cogent, logical response through the blabber.
 
I'll spare you all.

He has nothing to say. He's not even invested. He's just a guy with a mic.

It comes across like that guy at the bar who mistakes an autism masked social acknowledgement as an invitation to lean in and disclose his politics and worldviews while I'm trying to read this forum on my phone.

"They hit...my integrity."

"People are out money. I am not one of those people because I don't like Ninja Scroll or crowdfunding anyway."

"I can't be like that. Princip/3."

"Without people being spoken, we have to assume this is purposeful. And until they speak up, we have to assume it's purposeful. The lack of communication is hurting their reputation. You have to assume the worst in that case."

It seems like he's just... And I know he'll be mad at this given how he comes across... Virtue signaling. About toy companies.

Also starts defending Vala out of nowhere as a comparison point. "He doesn't lie, I've never caught him in a lie. He just withholds information." Etc.
 
Youtubers are very cliqueish. I'm not really familiar with his videos, but is Robert's name more likely to be shouted out by the 3Poa/Vala sphere? Yes. Not saying there's anything improper or that he's best buds with Bobby, but there is an online connection.
 
Youtubers are very cliqueish. I'm not really familiar with his videos, but is Robert's name more likely to be shouted out by the 3Poa/Vala sphere? Yes. Not saying there's anything improper or that he's best buds with Bobby, but there is an online connection.
Makes sense. Actually, that context would explain why this feels like a remora chasing a shark in the aftermath of the three POA discussion.

I think a lot of this is the first draft notes that this guy went to print with. A lot of it could be cut. He has nothing new to offer on the actual topic that J already hasn't covered more in depth.

I'm not slamming it. Just giving my thoughts that we were asked.
 
And see, if you knew anything about how little self esteem I have, and how on the brink of suicide I am every second of every day, which constant therapy & higher dosage of pills have done nothing to pull back, and how I assume I'm always wrong & at fault, you might not've come from the "you're the problem" angle, because you definitely just made that worse.

I think I'm a worthless piece of shit that everybody hates.

Literally, when I first joined this board, and people were like "yay! you're here," I legitimately responded to each & every one of them that I didn't think they even liked me, let alone are happy at my presence.

It's called "Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria," and it's pretty fucking horrible for people who are mentally ADULTS. And I've mentioned before, especially when describing why ToyShiz's literal fucking bullying, I'm not mentally an adult. I'm physically 43. And I'm "mature" enough to be able to form these kinds of sentences, and hold jobs for awhile (until a Neurotypical in charge gets sick of me, and decides they don't want to "put up with" me any longer), and go grocery shopping, and generally take care of myself. But I absolutely have enough of moderate arrested development that I'm largely just a scared prepubscent who just wants everyone to like each other, and more importantly, like me.

My first thought when ToyShiz left that condescending comment on one of my videos was, "yeah, I'm clearly failing at this. I should just give it up. Delete my entire channel, and not even bother with another video." It wasn't "hey, this guy's a jerk, and that's my final thought."

Literally everyone sees my reactions as knee-jerk, when they have less than zero fucking idea of all the straws that have piled up on the camel's back, and as much as I think I'm a piece of shit that doesn't deserve to be liked or have friends or anything good happen to him, I am NOT just an intolerant asshole with a hair trigger who has no patience or comprehension of subtlety or grey areas.

And yet I get accused of that constantly. I always get accused of not giving people chances, when that's all I do to the point of being an abuse victim time & time & time again, and yet I never play the victim, because I deserve it, and it's always my fault.

Everyone can say whatever the fuck they want about me with little to no empathy or willingness to understand or delve deeper, and I just have to sit & smile & take it with gratitude, or I'm a piece of shit who doesn't deserve A chance, let alone sixth, seventh, or eighth chances like I give everyone else.

But the second I try to say even something constructively criticizing or that something someone said hurt my feelings or offended me: that's it. One strike, I'm out. They cut ties, I never hear from or see them again, unless in passing, where I get the daggerest of dirty looks.

Christ, I could've so easily turned shit on you, and said "You're judged by the company you keep," instead of giving YOU the benefit of the doubt, constantly complimenting you.

But I'm a people-pleaser and a doormat. It's chemically part of my brain.

But the second I try to stand up for myself, I'M the bully. I'M the asshole. I'M the problem.

Which I'm constantly afraid of. I've annoyed the shit out of family & friends & therapists, worrying about what a waste of life I am for saying one thing or feeling another.

But the thing I've noticed about ACTUAL assholes?

They're never afraid of that.

They're so full of confidence, and self-assurance, and self-esteem, because everyone loves them, and they have never done nor said anything wrong at all in their entire lives.

So I sit at home alone, surrounded by the only "people" who don't judge me, the plastic ones, wanting to die, but even too pathetic to cut ties there, and continue to give myself chance after chance after chance, regardless of how many times I fuck up & disappoint myself.

And the assholes become billionaires & elected president.
 
Hey gang. I don't think this thread has become anything that could be considered productive to healthy discussion for our silly little hobby. If it just stays at reminiscing about the days of Fwoosh, that's cool. If it just stays talking about what's going on with the ninja scroll line, that's also fine. but I don't think it's good for anyone if it turns into all of us talking about what other toy collecting entities or individuals that we don't like or have a bad experience with. I don't think that's good for this thread or any thread for that matter. It's one thing if we're voicing our feelings about people in threads about toy lines that they may be directly involved with, but at this point it seems like we're just in here bashing people who have absolutely nothing to do with Fwoosh or articulated icons.
 
Makes sense. Actually, that context would explain why this feels like a remora chasing a shark in the aftermath of the three POA discussion.

I think a lot of this is the first draft notes that this guy went to print with. A lot of it could be cut. He has nothing new to offer on the actual topic that J already hasn't covered more in depth.

I'm not slamming it. Just giving my thoughts that we were asked.
Right, and then there was the fly landing on his Wolverine figure. Do a second take and fix it in post.
 
Right, and then there was the fly landing on his Wolverine figure. Do a second take and fix it in post.
Haha, that's one of my biggest peeves with video content, and it always seems to be the YouTubers. You can edit. You can do other takes.

Why do I need you to apologize that your dog walked into the room and then hear you messing with it. I know that old YouTube loved the authenticity and real moments but it's not for me.
 
Apologies if I missed it earlier in the thread. What is the connection between Fwoosh and Big Bad Workshop? Is the Longbox Heroes line connected to Fwoosh?
 
Apologies if I missed it earlier in the thread. What is the connection between Fwoosh and Big Bad Workshop? Is the Longbox Heroes line connected to Fwoosh?

Monster Force is making skeletons. The skeletons are using the old Fwoosh molds.

Given how Paul has ghosted everybody with information about the ninja scroll line and how the only confirmation we even heard about Ninja scroll being canceled came from big bad toy store canceling, YouTubers are doing detective work and commentary.

The product from fresh monkey fiction says they are working in collaboration with the fwoosh.

Does that mean borrowed molds? Does that mean an actual investment and collaboration? Did they buy the molds and are just giving credit? Nobody knows. Everybody has opinions.
 
I will say here that I wish we would stop propping up the Fwoosh forums. I know 99% of us don't still post there, but Paul doesn't deserve ad money from our views or clicks. Let the place die. As I've said since we started over here on AT, the Fwoosh is not a place, it is people and the people are here. Paul and the Fwoosh will fall into the category that Dorkside and Megalopolis/Premium DNA are in and I don't want anything to do with that. So for anyone that is still posting there, consider letting it die. Hit Paul where it hurts, in his wallet.
 
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