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JakeEkiss said:
Different time, but I watched it in theaters at 14 and was hooked right away.

Unfortunately it's a bit harder to watch now because I know too much about Luc, Milla, and Maïwenn. Sort of wish I could unlearn all that.

Capes are cool. Everyone looks cool in a good cape.
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They're not sentient beings (Gary told me himself); they don't care about 'cool'.
 
JakeEkiss said:
Different time, but I watched it in theaters at 14 and was hooked right away.

Unfortunately it's a bit harder to watch now because I know too much about Luc, Milla, and Maïwenn. Sort of wish I could unlearn all that.
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Yeah...it's unfortunate.
JakeEkiss said:
Capes are cool. Everyone looks cool in a good cape.
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adrienveidt said:
They're not sentient beings (Gary told me himself); they don't care about 'cool'.
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Oh, I didn't assume *they* decided to wear capes. I assumed the guy in his underwear made that call.
DarthDre758 said:
Yeah...it's unfortunate.
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Right? Don't even get me started on The Professional. *sigh*

Like, it's one thing for like, a gross dude to feature in a film. Or direct a film. Whatever. Bad people sometimes make good art. But Professional being... the way it is... especially if you've seen the longer cut, and the context. Ew. EW. EEEWWWW.
 
I really don't wanna comment because I really loved Professional, and I sorta appreciated him turning her down in a way she couldn't argue. It wasn't "you're too young" and potentially making her feel bad, it was "I'm not over someone else and it wouldn't work because of me". Which I read more like... He was trying to reason with her gently rather than crushing her. But I haven't actually watched it since learning all that other shit, and probably never will. Let me have my version that may exist only in my memory.
 
Superman: So you guys are... naked? I guess? Do you want to wear clothes?
Gary grabs a nearby tablecloth and wraps it around his shoulders: Does this suffice?
Superman:... I mean. Sure. Yeah, capes are cool, that's fine.

Gawd, I FORGOT about the whole Luc thing. There's stories about people being awful and then there's stories where if you watch them later they feel like a confession. I'm not up for a deep dive discussion into Gaiman because that gutted me, but a friend who had adored him her whole life said she powered through the second season of Sandman and all of Dream's worst behaviors now feel like an admission of his own actions. I stopped watching and haven't done a reread in a lot of years, but it's certainly not the first time that's happened with a creator.

(Goddammit, I loved so much of Besson's stuff. Even Valerian, as weird as it is, is such a visual mind-fuck you don't really see in theatrical release anymore.
 
adrienveidt said:
Telling others what to wear isn't very punk rock of him.
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I sort of figure the robots sentience was an emergent thing. Like Clark made them and at first they're very function driven. And he's like "I'll give them capes" and then they start talking about how they have no emotions while clearly having emotions and Clark's like "So, uhm, do you... *like* those capes?" And since they all really love Clark none of them felt the need to wear anything else.
 
Ru1977 said:
Which I read more like... He was trying to reason with her gently rather than crushing her. But I haven't actually watched it since learning all that other shit, and probably never will. Let me have my version that may exist only in my memory.
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Oh, that is more or less what the movie does. It's more when Luc himself is like "I based that relationship on me and my wife" or whatever and you just feel like you wanna hurl. Luc the writer knows Luc the person is gross or he wouldn't have sanded the edges off so that people could reasonably look past it. I think that's probably also why he makes her completely in charge of the relationship. She drives all the action in the film and Leon is largely without agency otherwise.
 
True true... And you're right, the reality taints the shit out of something that kinda toes the line as is... But managed somehow kinda.

Is she the one in the beginning with the guy told to leave town? That was the other one that is super creepy, but she's with a "bad guy" so it's like, well ... He's bad so now he is even worse. In fact... What is there, like four females in the whole thing? No five. The only kinda positive adult woman is at the end I think ...
 
Ru1977 said:
True true... And you're right, the reality taints the shit out of something that kinda toes the line as is... But managed somehow kinda.

Is she the one in the beginning with the guy told to leave town? That was the other one that is super creepy, but she's with a "bad guy" so it's like, well ... He's bad so now he is even worse. In fact... What is there, like four females in the whole thing? No five. The only kinda positive adult woman is at the end I think ...
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The movie doesn't really portray any women over the age of 15 positively, though yeah, there's hardly any in there otherwise so... the movie definitely doesn't have much love or sympathy for Matilde's mom or older sister.
 
docsilence said:
So I saw Van Helsing was leaving Netflix
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For some reason, my brain read this and thought of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie from around the same time. I haven't seen either since they were in theaters.
DarthDre758 said:
I watched The Fifth Element with my youngest son last night. I realized while watching it, the bulk of the beginning is kinda boring (at least for a 14 year old), but overall he enjoyed it.
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I watched it for the first time about a year ago and was really impressed. My expectations for sci-fi TV shows and movies are tragically low. The Fifth Element was good enough to where I'd rewatch it.
JakeEkiss said:
Unfortunately it's a bit harder to watch now because I know too much about Luc, Milla, and Maïwenn.
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Yep. I did my best to ignore the half-naked 20-year-old throughout. I could compartmentalize that in ways I couldn't with The Professional. That one always read as confessional Pedophile Art to me. Much in the same way as Woody Allen's Manhattan.
 
TheSameIdiot said:
Yep. I did my best to ignore the half-naked 20-year-old throughout. I could compartmentalize that in ways I couldn't with The Professional. That one always read as confessional Pedophile Art to me. Much in the same way as Woody Allen's Manhattan.
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I've never seen a Woody Allen film, but thankfully he's saved me from any feeling I'd need to.
 
JakeEkiss said:
I've never seen a Woody Allen film, but thankfully he's saved me from any feeling I'd need to.
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I used to make films and I never got the Woody Allen thing, but my gawd I still know some film critics who will defend him to the death to this day.
 
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