Operation Monster Force

[Spongyblue]

I can see it. Just don't have him talk much, I can't see him doing a Transylvanian accent all that well.

 

[AceofKnaves]

Like if he just stands there in a costume? Says nothing? Doesn’t move?

Eh, maybe.


Keanu is cool, but realistically he’s just not a very skilled actor. Dracula should be played by someone *good*, like with Shakespearean stage chops.
Go rent Much Ado About Nothing or Dangerous Liaisons: Keanu absolutely sucks doing “serious” acting, unless he’s, like, a scuzzy scumbag like in The Gift or The Neon Demon.

I have a hard time casting Dracula, but Keanu would never, ever make the list.

 

[TENIME]

No disrespect to @SalemCrow's superior photograph, but the one with the LooseCollector doesn't properly convey just how much bigger than the FuRay wolves they truly are lol

And yeah, I need FuRay Planet to rerelase them all (I know BBTS has the white one in stock). I need a naked white, a naked brown, a naked grey (the Kiloworg sans accessories), and I need one more of each of the kitted-out ones, so I can mix & match clothing/weapons, and utilize each one of their three heads. And I need them to do a fourth one in black fur (which I will then need three of). Having nothing to do with the LC one, but that's just a bonus.

Also, is there a Black Phillip other than the Funko Pop? Because I need it if so.

Google was of no help as usual, so please, someone clarify!

 

[AceofKnaves]

Also, is there a Black Phillip other than the Funko Pop?

Hehehe I was referring to “Gorgon the Demon Goat” from Naughty or Nice: I have one with the harness removed that I just call “Black Phillip” and he hangs out with Dracula.

 

[TENIME]

Who I clearly already have, lol, okay, phew. Thank you for the clarification! I got worried for a second!

 

[Spongyblue]

Imma need help with the Werewolves as I lost track on who is who and what is what. Veteren Willem, Monster Force or no? Kiloworg? Different color Worgs? Help a homie.

 

[docsilence]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

I’ve warmed to Keanu’s acting in the last decade or so, but you do NOT promote thee worst Harker of all time to Dracula. No no no.

I should've put a smiley face in my post - I like Keanu as a person and he could be a great photo reference for Dracula but he doesn't have the right vibes for him. (It's literally what I complain about everyone fan-casting superhero movies--don't cast the look, cast the skill). But using Old Keanu as a physical basis for a Dracula figure would be pretty good.

Just hit ship on white William from BBTS about twenty minutes ago. I think I would've rather gotten either other one, the brown or Killoworg, but I had FOMO and the others are completely gone aside from marked up used versions on eBay so I FOMO'd my way into a white wolf. I likely wasn't going to pose him with a gun anyway, but I do think I'll use his hatchet.

 

[AceofKnaves]

don't cast the look, cast the skill

From the bottom of my heart, thank you for saying that.
I say that not just as a fan of good casting, but also as an actor myself. Being passed over for not having the right “look” sucks, but what sucks even more is being stuck in productions with someone who was cast for the “look” but is absolutely not up to the role. I do a lot of musicals, and I have been cast opposite many skinny “pretty” people who canNOT do it, and even more folks who “fit the touring-company costume” and did NOT fit the role. And that’s not even taking “celebrity” status into account, which is where you get the TRULY bad casting.
Want a “look”? Cast thee best performer, then give them time and resources to “transform”.

 

[TENIME]

Imma need help with the Werewolves as I lost track on who is who and what is what. Veteren Willem, Monster Force or no? Kiloworg? Different color Worgs? Help a homie.

Brown regular "Veteran William" from Maestro Union's FuRay Planet line.

White variant "Veteran William" from Maestro Union's FuRay Planet line.

Grey "Kiloworg Night Hunter" from Maestro Union's collaboration with Fresh Monkey Fiction from their Operation: Monster Force line.

Grey "Primal Kiloworg" (no clothes or weapons, cheaper price) from Maestro Union's collaboration with Fresh Monkey Fiction from their Operation: Monster Force line.

EDIT: Added pics for assistance. Pardon the text & "erasing" parts - these are from my "Wants List," lol.

 

[docsilence]

From the bottom of my heart, thank you for saying that.
I say that not just as a fan of good casting, but also as an actor myself. Being passed over for not having the right “look” sucks, but what sucks even more is being stuck in productions with someone who was cast for the “look” but is absolutely not up to the role. I do a lot of musicals, and I have been cast opposite many skinny “pretty” people who canNOT do it, and even more folks who “fit the touring-company costume” and did NOT fit the role. And that’s not even taking “celebrity” status into account, which is where you get the TRULY bad casting.
Want a “look”? Cast thee best performer, then give them time and resources to “transform”.

Best advice I got from one of my mentors when I was casting for my films was "See everyone, you never know who will surprise you." The best casting choice I made in my feature film debut was someone who read the sides, said "the character is described as svelte (gestures to his own body) and I, clearly, am NOT" and he ended up stealing the entire movie out from the rest of the cast with his performance.

And yeah, one of the reasons I've been doing (and loving) voice work the past few years is I get to play characters I'd never get to be because of my look. I got to be a leading man alien orc and a dashing space pirate in two recent projects because it was just voice casting. (Meanwhile every time people talk casting Batman or Wolverine I'm grinding my teeth like 'cast the skill, not the looooook')

All this werewolf talk I'm gonna be refreshing my shipping details from BBTS til he gets here. I really REALLY wanted the colors from Killoworg but from what everyone was saying, a reprint seemed unlikely and the white version was just right there...

 

[TheGillMan]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

I’ve warmed to Keanu’s acting in the last decade or so, but you do NOT promote thee worst Harker of all time to Dracula. No no no.

AMEN! I think Keanu is a great guy, and in some roles I think he's great (he really needs a decent director though). As Dracula? Noooooooooooooooooo!

Like if he just stands there in a costume? Says nothing? Doesn’t move?

Eh, maybe.


Keanu is cool, but realistically he’s just not a very skilled actor. Dracula should be played by someone *good*, like with Shakespearean stage chops.
Go rent Much Ado About Nothing or Dangerous Liaisons: Keanu absolutely sucks doing “serious” acting, unless he’s, like, a scuzzy scumbag like in The Gift or The Neon Demon.

I have a hard time casting Dracula, but Keanu would never, ever make the list.

I'd really have a hard time of it myself, as 90% of the actors I hear considered for the role just DON'T work for me. At one point, about 15 years ago, I heard that Mark Strong was in consideration for the role, and I thought that was intriguing. Still, my minds-eye of the character is SO specific that I have a hard time shoehorning in a known actor.

Hehehe I was referring to “Gorgon the Demon Goat” from Naughty or Nice: I have one with the harness removed that I just call “Black Phillip” and he hangs out with Dracula.

From the moment I saw that figure solicited, I knew he was going to be in my horror display as Black Phillip. He currently is hanging out with Leatherface, Pinhead, Michael Myers, etc.

don't cast the look, cast the skill

SO much this!

From the bottom of my heart, thank you for saying that.
I say that not just as a fan of good casting, but also as an actor myself. Being passed over for not having the right “look” sucks, but what sucks even more is being stuck in productions with someone who was cast for the “look” but is absolutely not up to the role. I do a lot of musicals, and I have been cast opposite many skinny “pretty” people who canNOT do it, and even more folks who “fit the touring-company costume” and did NOT fit the role. And that’s not even taking “celebrity” status into account, which is where you get the TRULY bad casting.
Want a “look”? Cast thee best performer, then give them time and resources to “transform”.

I've experienced this WAY too many times to even list. You're in a production where the lead can't carry a tune in a bucket, and has the acting skill of a wet sock, while someone far more suited for the role is in the damned chorus. It frustrates me to no end, even when I'm not the one it impacts. My first wife was in a production of A Chorus Line years ago, and 90% of the cast I was scratching my head at how they wound up in the role they were in. Many of them were good, but should have obviously been playing a different role. I wanted to ask the director just what the hell they were thinking, as it was some really ridiculous casting.

Best advice I got from one of my mentors when I was casting for my films was "See everyone, you never know who will surprise you." The best casting choice I made in my feature film debut was someone who read the sides, said "the character is described as svelte (gestures to his own body) and I, clearly, am NOT" and he ended up stealing the entire movie out from the rest of the cast with his performance.

So critical to casting, truthfully. I see lots of productions and even movies where I sit there thinking "WHY is this person playing this role, when they had THAT actor right there and cast them in a role that they could do in their sleep"?

And yeah, one of the reasons I've been doing (and loving) voice work the past few years is I get to play characters I'd never get to be because of my look. I got to be a leading man alien orc and a dashing space pirate in two recent projects because it was just voice casting. (Meanwhile every time people talk casting Batman or Wolverine I'm grinding my teeth like 'cast the skill, not the looooook')

I've wanted to break into voice acting for years, but every bit of research I've done on the topic has led me to dead-ends. I'd love to know how you got into it!

 

[docsilence]

I've wanted to break into voice acting for years, but every bit of research I've done on the topic has led me to dead-ends. I'd love to know how you got into it!

Happy to chat further in DMs, but it's particularly tough to get into right now--the signal to noise is brutal because everyone WANTS to do it, but not everyone who think they want to do it actually CAN, and there's a lot of production companies that are promising more than they can deliver so it's easy to feel like you're spinning your wheels and wasting your time. Also VO is NOTORIOUSLY incestuous. Once you're in you're in, but you have to get into that inner circle to get any work at all.

 

[JakeEkiss]

Go rent Much Ado About Nothing

Hot take, I think his performance in Much Ado is legit awesome. He's playing a farce villain in a bit part in a romantic comedy. This is the same play with Dogberry in it. Keanu totally nails the assignment. I love that movie, his "Plain dealing villain" monologue included.

 

[AceofKnaves]

Hot take, I think his performance in Much Ado is legit awesome.

I use his “I am of few words . . . but I thank you” line frequently as an example of the worst line reads of all time.
I love that play and that film, but holy cats he’s just fucking terrible in it. I have the same problem with Leo DiCaprio in Romeo+Juliet: he just blows the Shakespeare of it all so badly that I just can’t. Although Keanu seemed humble about it, while Leo just sneers arrogantly through his failure. Urgh I could write essays about how much I despise Leo’s acting in his early/mid career. Blech Blech Blech
Just two guys who should never be near a Shakespeare project.

 

[JakeEkiss]

I use his “I am of few words . . . but I thank you” line frequently as an example of the worst line reads of all time.
I love that play and that film, but holy cats he’s just fucking terrible in it. I have the same problem with Leo DiCaprio in Romeo+Juliet: he just blows the Shakespeare of it all so badly that I just can’t. Although Keanu seemed humble about it, while Leo just sneers arrogantly through his failure. Urgh I could write essays about how much I despise Leo’s acting in his early/mid career. Blech Blech Blech
Just two guys who should never be near a Shakespeare project.

Nah, see, for me Keanu is just part of the silliness inherent to that play. I look at Dogberry and then to Don John and I'm like "yeah, this is what Ken Branagh asked for".

Honest folks can disagree, of course, but of all Keanu's performances (some of which are very bad) I think this one is unfairly maligned. It's perfect, exactly the right level of over the top for that play.