U.S. Politics

TheSameIdiot said:
But wait, there's more! Everything they do is to inflict the most harm imaginable.

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Ugh. Am I surprised? Not in the least bit. Am I saddened? Furious? At a loss for words? Completely.

I don't think people realize how precious a resource that is for people, especially those struggling with their sexuality in less accepting parts of the country. There's already the shame of being gay itself, but the shame of feeling suicidal is a whole other topic that many keep close to their chest, whatever their reason may be. I think if we got down to the nitty gritty, a lot of folks would be surprised at how many people- including people they know well- have taken advantage of a suicide hotline at least once in their lives.

Are they cure-alls? Absolutely not. I've had to use one once or twice, and they can be a real toss-up. Either you get someone who's awesome and willing to listen, or, like in my case, they kinda just tell you to call your therapist instead. I've had a couple friends say something similar, but I've had even more friends say the opposite- that they felt so alone, and so scared to push away people that they knew, that talking to a stranger was the only thing that gave them hope and let them feel like they could get out what they needed to say without judgement, or that they felt so alone that just knowing someone, even a stranger, was willing to listen, convinced them to keep going. Some of them had never heard the words "you matter", or "Who you are is okay", or what have you, before. If they hadn't had that phone call, they'd more than likely be dead right now.

To remove such services will lead to more deaths- of folks both young and old, that's all there is to it. To announce something like this during Pride Month (which will continue to exist, whether they want it or not), just feels like salt in the wound. Yet again, no one subtly (and not-so-subtly) advocates for the death of anyone different than the "pro-life" crowd. Please know, though, I know it's not everyone. Not all pro-lifers are hateful pieces of garbage, but most, if not all hateful pieces of garbage also turn out to be pro-lifers.

That's why I lost my cool online the other day during the No Kings Rally. These people are more and more advocating for the outright death of people like me and my loved ones, and then they have the gall to tell me I'm not being respectful to them when I make a little quip about their intelligence? (Every single one of them proved me right, by the way, since their grammar was atrocious in each of their posts). God, it just breaks my heart. I hope whatever blood is spilled because of this stains their hands for the rest of their miserable little lives.

I'm gonna keep doing my best to live a life of love and acceptance. To hell with it if people think I'm weird- I don't ever want to have a day where I look back and regret not telling a friend or a loved one, or even that lovely cashier I make small-talk with, how I truly appreciate them. My rainbow is too fuckin' bright to be dulled by the nebulous darkness of these a-hole's hearts, and their hate sure as shit ain't gonna dictate the worth of my love.
 
Obama annoys the shit out of me. I've come to realize that old Democrats think everything is a "distraction" because they can't keep up with the modern media environment. I don't want to spend an hour a day on my phone following the news, either, but that's the way it is. We aren't going back.

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The power of his voice. Jesus fucking Christ. Sorry, master. Please let us know when things are serious enough for you to descend the mansion staircase to issue your decrees on what we have a right to be upset about.
 
I mean, I suppose he has a point. Kinda worded terribly, granted- a little too sanitized for my current rage-filled takes. People absolutely do need to call out all the BS going on- attack the steady stream of disinformation with as much truth as you possibly can. Not that the majority of folks on his side will listen to a word of it, but over time, the truth will wear some people down enough to plant that seed of doubt in them. I guess it doesn't matter how they learn to turn against him, it just matters that they do. But that's the thing- we gotta call it like we see it. Not only call out the lie, but make it known how dangerous it is. This is lightyears beyond just a "stern, finger-wagging talking-to" moment; we gotta match their freak, so to speak. At this point, passiveness or middle-ground is more condoning than condemning. You gotta stand for something so you don't fall for anything. Like I'd mentioned God knows how many pages ago- what matters is that we know where the line is and we don't cross it. We make the argument about what it's about- we don't get racist or xenophobic or homophobic or what have you, we admit when we're wrong or step out of line, and most importantly, we move the hell on afterward.

I do feel like the tide is slowly starting to turn. I've seen more posts from that fine subsection of MAGA followers- the older religious crowd that is progressive enough to care about their LGBT friends and family members but not enough to not vote for Trump- saying that they're shocked and disappointed that he'd roll back X protection or funding. It's endlessly stupid and infuriating seeing all the "I didn't think the face-eating tiger would eat my face!" posts- it's all too little too late, and I do, of course, wish it was the faster- the slower the turning of the tide is, the more prep time MAGA has and can adjust accordingly or attack more subsects of people. But the wave always overtakes the boat eventually.
 
joshsquash729 said:
People absolutely do need to call out all the BS going on- attack the steady stream of disinformation with as much truth as you possibly can.
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This is the thing. There's a constant drumbeat of misinformation that has to be beaten back by the truth every day. Obama can't come in once a year and say something. It doesn't break through.

Imagine if he had a bi-weekly podcast or something where he was basically the counter-president. It would've broken precedent, but we're long past that anyway. Imagine how furious Trump would be. He'd spend half his day talking about Obama.

Unfortunately, Obama is too concerned with decorum to do something like that. He and every Democrat over the age of 50. Girl, decorum is dead. We're street fighting now.
 
TheSameIdiot said:
This is the thing. There's a constant drumbeat of misinformation that has to be beaten back by the truth every day. Obama can't come in once a year and say something. It doesn't break through.

Imagine if he had a bi-weekly podcast or something where he was basically the counter-president. It would've broken precedent, but we're long past that anyway. Imagine how furious Trump would be. He'd spend half his day talking about Obama.

Unfortunately, Obama is too concerned with decorum to do something like that. He and every Democrat over the age of 50. Girl, decorum is dead. We're street fighting now.
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I don't disagree. What's so infuriating to me is that there are people- mostly younger folks- who do spend practically every day debunking all the new claims and happenings online. Twitter is full of folks like that, but it never seems to really break out of that circle. Any time it does, like with younger, more radical figures like David Hogg, they almost always get completely shut out of being given a platform or taken seriously by older generations- politicians or not. I don't always agree with the things they say or do or how they do it, but since I guess I'm somewhere in the middle age-wise, I tend to lean toward the younger, more radical generation. They're the ones who are- and will be- feeling the effects of these laws (or lack thereof), and if it's their future, why shouldn't they be given a say in it? Can it be a bit much sometimes? Sure, but I'd rather someone err on the side of excess when it comes to things like that. I'd rather they apologize for being overprotective than underprotective. Many Democrats are just as guilty when it comes to wanting to keep things old fashioned; they'll allow progress, but only up to a point. Like you said, desperate times call for desperate measures, and we are well into desperate times. So many of these lawmakers are afraid to step out of line, but they literally have a whole new generation of people who realize better how the world works now, not 50 years ago, who are ready, willing, and able to do the work for them.

For a country that touts itself on being so "progressive", we're so by-the-book and unable to separate ourselves from tradition that it's maddening. While yes, I believe that the constitution is generally a pretty good set of rules to go off, there are things that should certainly be amended with the times. You could say the same about any set of rules- the Bible, certainly. We certainly don't give much credence to not eating shellfish or stoning a person for having sex before marriage. What worked or didn't work for people way back when is totally different to what does/doesn't today, and I think the same should go for every set of rules we as a country put stock in- certainly when it comes to things like taxes, guns, etc. I know that that's almost opening up a whole other can of worms, and I don't mean to- I don't have the mental energy right now- but generally, I believe a country that was founded during a time of war and undoubtedly based its principals on those unique circumstances should maybe give all that a second look when they're not in times of war. But such is the American way- we always need to be fighting a battle against something.
 
joshsquash729 said:
I mean, I suppose he has a point.
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Nah. Like TSI is saying - Obama is still trying to play the Centrist 'last reasonable guy in the room' shtick where he pulls from a playbook that the other side set on fire already. Obama has very little power now, but lots of sway. And he's used that sway to do absolutely fucking nothing for one entire Trump presidency and now 5 months of the second Trump presidency. Obama sucks as much now as he always did. He's just sitting on a pile of money stewing over the fact that he doesn't get to be the one to bomb-strike children anymore. Fuck him until the day he dies.


joshsquash729 said:
What's so infuriating to me is that there are people- mostly younger folks- who do spend practically every day debunking all the new claims and happenings online. Twitter is full of folks like that, but it never seems to really break out of that circle.
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None of those people used to be president. That's the thing. The -sane- people talking politics, completely NOT by coincidence, are not the people with power and platform. Because the people that have those things, even the 'Lefty' ones, are so desperately terrified to lose those things, or to be a target, or both, that they refuse to get involved in the way that your average Lefty TikToker has no problem doing because they have so much less to lose.

So the people whose voice is the most likely to break through are also the least likely to use it.

joshsquash729 said:
I believe a country that was founded during a time of war and undoubtedly based its principals on those unique circumstances should maybe give all that a second look when they're not in times of war
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I'd say any document written by slave owning oligarchs should probably get a second look. Frankly, I think ANY set of laws should be looked over again as often as possible. Because times change in spite of us and laws only change because of us. I blame religion for all of this and I can explain why but no one wants to hear it. Ultimately, we NEED to accept that NOTHING written is sacrosanct. The moment a document, a book, a law becomes sacred, it becomes untouchable. And an untouchable document is tyranny. Plain and simple.


Justice said:
My youngest sister yesterday confessed to me that she was regretting having voted for Trump. She definitely previously fell into the uninformed voter category so maybe that is a good sign.
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I just cannot stop feeling infuriated by this. Either a person literally had NO idea who Trump was... somehow. In which case the question has to be asked of why they voted at all. Literally, you're just such a fucking narcissistic that you had to inflict your decision on other people without even knowing what it meant at all? OR, you listened to soundbites of a revenge-fueled, dementia-riddled, discriminatory rapist and said 'I don't know a LOT about this guy, but I like the cut of his jib.'

Fuck every one of these people.
 
For those interested; here's an actual lawyer, with research from an actual law firm/team, regarding the idea that soldiers can just 'not follow illegal orders.' Interesting, if kind of scary, stuff.

 
Reading about the Dodgers incident and really, how the fuck are people not more worried about masked, armed men in unmarked vehicles milling around public spaces looking threatening and when you call various government agencies they're all "not it" about it? ICE says they aren't theirs, DHS says they're border patrol, border patrol was silent. A baseline for responsibility is no more fucking masks and wear a goddamned badge, but because they're not going after MAGA people yet, sure yeah it's fine, let Dessert Storm cosplayers walk around kidnapping people.

(And when I say people, I don't mean us in this thread, I mean *waves hands in the air* all the fucking mouthbreathers out there.)
 
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